[ckneasel]

Originally Posted by GoGetGriff

Why is everyone so hypercritical and salty about Doug?

because his car "reviews" suck...

if you simply watch them to see the cars features, i get it, but to get a real review of a car from him is laughable...

[fundamentals]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

Have you driven a base model Cayenne? There is nothing magical or “Porsche” about it. The BMW 40i equipped with the M-Sport package is none of those you mentioned. It’s no DHP but it does a great job of tightening up the overall feel of the 40i.

Porsche SUV’s have been advertised and marketed from day one that they have the same feel/handling and attributes as a 911. This was to give the Cayenne more perceived status so it wouldn’t fall by the way like the 944/968. Porsche couldn’t let the Cayenne fail so they would do and say anything to sell them. (here lies the rub and the unforgivable line that was crossed to their Porsche community)

I was at the launch of the very first Cayenne to the PCA for the very first test drives. It was laughable after our test drives and we came away disgusted Porsche would even attempt to market the Cayenne any way attached to the 911 and it’s handling. It’s not that the SUV Cayenne was a bad SUV but to make the connection to the 911 was insulting and devalues their own 911 historical achievements just to sell a completely unrelated vehicle seemed so disingenuous.

Porsche has continued to associate their SUV’s with their sports cars trying to blur the lines that all Porsche vehicles contain the 911 DNA magic and status.
They still are not even in the same zip code and is a “feel good” attempt for Porsche SUV owners to believe their SUV has captured the Porsche 911 experience. Ridiculous. Porsche marketing 101 to those who drinks their Koolaid as the gospel truth. The Porsche community wouldn’t have pushed back against the Porsche SUV family if Porsche would have just marketed the vehicle as its own creation and not make so many associations to their sports cars.


Most people have no idea of the back story or Porsche marketing crap that surrounds the Cayenne. It was a crap mess and the automotive media wants to gloss over it or even rewrite history surrounding the Cayenne. I have 30+ years of 911 ownership and PCA experience.
Remember, BMW actually invented the German luxury performance SUV category with the X5.

I totally agree with your comments. Almost went that route but didn't drink the kool-aid