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      03-23-2022, 07:24 AM   #23
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The value of the gasoline version will stay strong as a pre-owned. Most are not ready for the Hybrid set up. I for one am not. Nothing better then the sound of the engine, it makes the drive experience way more fun.
It is NOT a hybrid. Half the people here seem to misunderstand this.
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      03-23-2022, 08:37 AM   #24
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Bmw is known for lying about HP numbers so it will probably make 700hp... that's crazy
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      03-23-2022, 08:41 AM   #25
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Yeah the way I see it, this is just BMW trying to keep the V8 alive for a bit longer. I don't think you will be able to tell from actually driving the car since there are little to no performance benifit. If its like my wife's Q7, it just allows for better start stop (debatable...) and things like shutting off the engine from a higher speed when slowing for a stop, keeping the power steering active even when the engine is off because of start stop, keeping the A/C & heating on longer after engine cuts...stuff like that. Plus it should help for cars in very cold climates as there is more "juice". My M2 gets a low battery warning if it sits for 2-3 days in the freezing cold...
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      03-23-2022, 09:15 AM   #26
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Wonder what the gas mileage specs are on this?
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      03-23-2022, 09:22 AM   #27
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Why? BMW have been providing mild hybrid setups for years now.
not on the Ms..the GLE63 was the first one in the realm of V8s
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      03-23-2022, 09:36 AM   #28
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Wonder if this will hit the g8x m cars at some point?
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      03-23-2022, 10:28 AM   #29
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So my 22 f95 is the last pure ICE drivetrain?! Cool!
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      03-23-2022, 09:32 PM   #30
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I'd just be happy if they gave us the option to order some 818's on the LCI.
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      03-24-2022, 10:55 AM   #31
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Gonna be fast. Can't wait to get one or an XM.
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      03-25-2022, 12:08 AM   #32
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Will the “mild hybrid” make it less of a gas hog? Serious pump pain here in CA right now. $6.50 and climbing.
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      03-27-2022, 09:35 AM   #33
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I hope they will make the V8 sound better with the new engine
Oh yeah! that electric motor will sound beautiful
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      03-28-2022, 07:00 AM   #34
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It is NOT a hybrid. Half the people here seem to misunderstand this.
I won't be so sure. There is not much info about new engine set up.

All we know its the same s68 used in M cars and M60 cars now.

We know BMW is moving research towards Hybrid engines.

Full M cars will have a Hybrid power train as seen in XM vehicle. It means heavy battery, big weight increase for the car in general, less space and much higher complexity. Again look at XM info

M760 mild hybrid is still a mystery. but still born from the same hybrid engine development.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/03/23/2...ode-spy-video/
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      10-25-2022, 11:21 PM   #35
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So will this weigh more?
About 850 lbs more (ETA: the vehicle, not the engine)

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      10-25-2022, 11:26 PM   #36
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It is NOT a hybrid. Half the people here seem to misunderstand this.
The S68 will be a MHEV
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      10-27-2022, 11:04 PM   #37
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That's why I bought mine 2 mos ago. Plus the Idrive 8 ,not like so much
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      10-28-2022, 01:05 PM   #38
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That's why I bought mine 2 mos ago. Plus the Idrive 8 ,not like so much
Same with me, my wife and I both ordered '23s on purpose. I don't mind iDrive8, when it works, which has been infrequent in the iX. And looking at the X7 forums, lots of little issues there as well.

In another year or so, once the bugs are worked out I'll gladly move over.
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      10-29-2022, 07:27 PM   #39
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This could be a good thing depending on how you look at it.

If the current M cars get a 100-150hp bump from their current versions without aggressive tuning or race gas, they'll be no need to further modify engines and risk reliability.
It's need vs's want, I'll always want more power.
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      11-02-2022, 01:16 AM   #40
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I hate the idea of introducing a new, more complex S68 engine and have the same exact horsepower as the previous S63 engine.

The fact that it will have a heavy battery and such means it will be slower.

Get your S63 while you can boys. Less complex, more aftermarket and probably faster.

The S68 should have came with 700 HP.

They are just using LCI's are test mules for data and to see relilability before it will be put into the next chassis X5/X6/M5/M8
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      11-02-2022, 06:55 AM   #41
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Conventional wisdom says never be an early adopter of a new model/engine. Let the engineers work out the issues first. Who wants to be a part of the test mule crew? On a 100k plus vehicle...
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      11-02-2022, 08:36 AM   #42
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This engine needed 700+ hp I agree with that. Other wise what's the point? I know why they did it, but to the end user/consumer we don't care about that bs.
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      11-02-2022, 09:56 AM   #43
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Dual all-electric motors with a total power output of 610-hp and 811 lb-ft of torque In IXM60 is only a 3.5 zero to 60mph and 11.9 1/4 mile. Not impressive.
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