[moodyhank82]

Originally Posted by Heavyd

Drove a Taycan yesterday. OMFG, it pushed my eyes into my skull Torque and acceleration is insane.

A relatively cheap Model 3 Performance or even a regular Long Range with acceleration boost has the similar neck snapping acceleration. Too bad the 45e didn't get a more powerful electric motor with the larger battery, electric torque is just addictive.

[Heavyd]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

In sport mode you also have electric boost. Max power should be in sport mode

You can see your total hp and torque in the sports display. So you can try both modes.

The location where the eboost is in hybrid turns blue when it kicks in. But in sports mode that location is always red. So you don't know if the boost kick in. Or does it kick in directly in sport?

Gonna try the sport displays.

[jad03060]

It's my understanding that EV boost is always enabled. Hard to prove. It's designed to help fill in before the turbo is coming on, but with BMW's turbo control, that's fairly quickly anyway.

[RocketGoBoom]

Here is my one month update.
1,137 miles driven so far, about 87% electric.
Still have well over half a tank of gas, never have filled it up yet.

Here is a quick video I made of it.

[aceman]

Rocket - That is amazing. Share a pic of your BC, is your mpg around 125??? Who crazy is that!

I took mine to upstate NY today, 400 mile trip. I got 22mpg on ICE for my first tank to those that want to know. Primarily highway, at 80-90mph. I left the house with a full charge showing 40 miles of range. I came home, and the car showed I drove 45 miles on electric today. It appears, even if you fully drain the battery - there is always enough juice to use from a stop - is this what everyone else is seeing? I drove the entire day on hybrid btw.

Thoughts?

Aceman

[njt07]

Originally Posted by aceman

Rocket - That is amazing. Share a pic of your BC, is your mpg around 125??? Who crazy is that!

I took mine to upstate NY today, 400 mile trip. I got 22mpg on ICE for my first tank to those that want to know. Primarily highway, at 80-90mph. I left the house with a full charge showing 40 miles of range. I came home, and the car showed I drove 45 miles on electric today. It appears, even if you fully drain the battery - there is always enough juice to use from a stop - is this what everyone else is seeing? I drove the entire day on hybrid btw.

Thoughts?

Aceman

This is exactly what I was trying to find out, long road trips MPG data. Thanks!

[jad03060]

FWIW, the speed limit in NYS max is 65mph...80-90, no vehicle gets great mpg. At that speed, 22mpg is actually pretty good! ANd, yes, I realize if you aren't going 70-75 on say the Thruway, you are a moving roadblock. Drag goes up non-linearly with speed.

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by aceman

Rocket - That is amazing. Share a pic of your BC, is your mpg around 125??? Who crazy is that!

I took mine to upstate NY today, 400 mile trip. I got 22mpg on ICE for my first tank to those that want to know. Primarily highway, at 80-90mph. I left the house with a full charge showing 40 miles of range. I came home, and the car showed I drove 45 miles on electric today. It appears, even if you fully drain the battery - there is always enough juice to use from a stop - is this what everyone else is seeing? I drove the entire day on hybrid btw.

Thoughts?

Aceman

Nice figure this is about what we get here in Europe. I am around 23-24 mpg but my speed on the highway is a bit lower 80-83 mph.

The total electric driven also includes the parts of the trip when the ICE is off like coasting, going downhill or slowing down for a traffic light. This could explain the 45 miles electric.

[aceman]

Totally agree guys on the 22mpg - its really great for a 5600 lb truck!
45e - thx for the info on the battery - that makes sense.

I have the Drivers assistance Pro package, and i used the cruise for the first time on this trip. Must say - the steering intervention for me was a little to aggressive - i switched to the mode where it was just radar cruise with no steering assistance. I started this tank with a combined mpg of 60, but ended at 45 all that high speed driving brings it down bigtime!

[FLYIN']

A little over a month since we got the X5 and out of 1573 mikes 836 of them have been all electric. If it was not for trips every weekend from our house in the city to the country house of 70 miles one way we could probably be 80-90% electric. Average 46.5 MPG at an average speed of 33MPH. Best speed seems to be about 50-60 MPH for range as I'm averaging 2.1 miles per KWH. Doing 50mph you can get almost 4miles per KWH.

[RocketGoBoom]

Originally Posted by aceman

Rocket - That is amazing. Share a pic of your BC, is your mpg around 125??? Who crazy is that!

I took mine to upstate NY today, 400 mile trip. I got 22mpg on ICE for my first tank to those that want to know. Primarily highway, at 80-90mph. I left the house with a full charge showing 40 miles of range. I came home, and the car showed I drove 45 miles on electric today. It appears, even if you fully drain the battery - there is always enough juice to use from a stop - is this what everyone else is seeing? I drove the entire day on hybrid btw.

Thoughts?

Aceman

I think the maximum it shows is 90.0 MPGe even if you are higher than that.

The bottom line is that it is fairly easy to stay in electric mode as much as you want if your driving is 30-35 miles per day. If you have a work recharging option then it could easily be double that.

I have 16 kW of solar panels on my roof and I usually work from home, so my X5 45e is here during the middle of the day. I go out to run errands, then come home. So my recharging is scheduled to occur between 10 am till 6 pm while the sun is up. So effectively, my driving is mostly on solar power.

During the day, my solar panels can easily exceed 8 to 15 kW depending on how sunny/cloudy it is and the time of day.
The maximum I have ever seen was 15.3 kW between Noon and 1 pm.
The BMW only pulls about 3.6 kW while recharging.

Originally Posted by FLYIN'

Best speed seems to be about 50-60 MPH for range as I'm averaging 2.1 miles per KWH. Doing 50mph you can get almost 4miles per KWH.

My long term average numbers are the same. 2.1 miles per kWh.
But when I really try I can do 4 miles per kWh if the road conditions are steady at 40-50 mph.

It is not very efficient in terms of miles per kWh. Teslas are way more efficient, approaching 4 miles per kWh. But even the BMW 45e cost per mile in electricity is about 50% cheaper than the cost per mile in gasoline, at our prices in Florida.

[brave-heart]

When I took delivery of the car in Oct the range was 30 miles. After 1 month, especially a long trip back from NY upstate, the range grows to 40 miles. I think the battery needs some kind of warm up. Given the fact that only 70% of battery capacity is used in US, I feel the other 30% might be unlocked through some OTA updates in the future? That would be close to 50 miles range which is amazing.

[jad03060]

The estimated range is based on how you drive. From the factory, it is preset to the EPA rating, and will adjust from there based on how you use it. Nobody really drives exactly like the EPA test cycle, but it's closer to reality than the test used in Europe, that, even with the latest version, is optimistic.

As to the untapped capacity BMWUSA utilizes, there are lots of theories why, and how it may end up being used, but nothing concrete. Speculation is not just an American sport, though, but they gave us some ammunition to play the game.

[moodyhank82]

Just hit 500 miles on my 45e, so far 92% of my driving has been on electric. Based on my driving style the car is now estimating the electric range on full charge to be close to 50 miles...

[codex57]

Thanks for the data points, everyone! Much appreciated.

[FLYIN']

So this week BMW pushed a software update to the X5 and my battery capacity and range went from 40 miles to 30 miles immediately. Sure enough after driving it for the first long trip yesterday, driving as I usually do at the same speed I got 30 instead of 40 miles. Since there is a huge recall on the vehicles for possible contamination in the batteries, is this a ploy by BMW by limiting the battery capacity to prevent the battery catching fire. It's well discussed that the issue happens when the battery is charged to 100%.
This is quite underhanded if this was pushed without any notice or explanation by BMW. I read the software update description and it did not describe any reduction in Capacity. Has anyone else seen this or am I paranoid?

[m3_08]

Originally Posted by FLYIN'

So this week BMW pushed a software update to the X5 and my battery capacity and range went from 40 miles to 30 miles immediately. Sure enough after driving it for the first long trip yesterday, driving as I usually do at the same speed I got 30 instead of 40 miles. Since there is a huge recall on the vehicles for possible contamination in the batteries, is this a ploy by BMW by limiting the battery capacity to prevent the battery catching fire. It's well discussed that the issue happens when the battery is charged to 100%.
This is quite underhanded if this was pushed without any notice or explanation by BMW. I read the software update description and it did not describe any reduction in Capacity. Has anyone else seen this or am I paranoid?

I never had more than 29miles max.
Got software update 4 days ago and my max shows again 29 miles. I'm on level2 charger and it charges to 100% in 5h but to 29max and 100%. Don't know how you guys getting more than 30miles max displayed at full charge!

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by m3_08

I never had more than 29miles max.
Got software update 4 days ago and my max shows again 29 miles. I'm on level2 charger and it charges to 100% in 5h but to 29max and 100%. Don't know how you guys getting more than 30miles max displayed at full charge!

It all depends on average speed, outside temperature and driving style.

If you commute is primarily highway and you live in a cold climate you won't see higher figures I think.

[taybo20]

What mode do you guys mostly drive in for your mostly electric miles? Electric Individual or Hybrid?

And in doing so, do you find any climate control or other issues in driving in Electric Individual? The manual doesn't really discuss the negatives of driving in a given mode.

I will take delivery of my 2021 in December. The 70% battery is kind of a bummer, but I'm hoping over time that can be increased and it's just BMW playing it safe right now.

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by taybo20

What mode do you guys mostly drive in for your mostly electric miles? Electric Individual or Hybrid?

And in doing so, do you find any climate control or other issues in driving in Electric Individual? The manual doesn't really discuss the negatives of driving in a given mode.

I will take delivery of my 2021 in December. The 70% battery is kind of a bummer, but I'm hoping over time that can be increased and it's just BMW playing it safe right now.

I have electric individual as default for start up and this is how most of my electric miles are done.

If I know my trip is longer than my electric range I drive in Adaptive.

I don't use hybrid or eco pro. Sport mode only when I feel sporty or in the mountains.

I have set electric individual with sport steering and the rest is comfort.

AC issues are in hybrid eco pro mode or electric individual with AC set in eco mode. In that setting it is not strong enough to cool during hot summers. I don't use the eco setting for AC or lights.

[taybo20]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

I have electric individual as default for start up and this is how most of my electric miles are done.

If I know my trip is longer than my electric range I drive in Adaptive.

I don't use hybrid or eco pro. Sport mode only when I feel sporty or in the mountains.

I have set electric individual with sport steering and the rest is comfort.

AC issues are in hybrid eco pro mode or electric individual with AC set in eco mode. In that setting it is not strong enough to cool during hot summers. I don't use the eco setting for AC or lights.

Thank you for the reply and the info! That's sounds great!

[jad03060]

Re the 30-miles after a s/w update, my guess is that it just gets reset to the EPA rating, and then the learning starts again, so it will rise or fall based on your actual situation.