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2021 X5 M50i 50 75.76%
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      10-21-2020, 08:16 AM   #23
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Having said the above, have you considered the Cayenne Coupe?
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This is the main reason why my decision is X5 vs Macan and not X5 vs Cayenne. The Cayenne was outrageously expensive.

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Great spec on the GTS.

If you already drove a base, then you have a feel for the size. The GTS will drive better with AS, PASM, PSE, Turbo brakes, and obviously more power. And full leather, carbon, burm stereo etc bring the interior way upscale.

You're seeing significant BMW bias here as expected. My opinion, having both of these cars in my garage right now, I would easily choose the Macan over the X5 if I had to only have one.
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Great spec on the GTS.

If you already drove a base, then you have a feel for the size. The GTS will drive better with AS, PASM, PSE, Turbo brakes, and obviously more power. And full leather, carbon, burm stereo etc bring the interior way upscale.

You're seeing significant BMW bias here as expected. My opinion, having both of these cars in my garage right now, I would easily choose the Macan over the X5 if I had to only have one.
What you aren't taking into account is people's situations - for some (me included) a Macan doesn't fit. It's way too small for what we need. Cayenne or X5 is minimum size for our family.

So if I had two in the garage and had to choose one - I'd go X5...
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What you aren't taking into account is people's situations - for some (me included) a Macan doesn't fit. It's way too small for what we need. Cayenne or X5 is minimum size for our family.

So if I had two in the garage and had to choose one - I'd go X5...
But the question the OP asked was which would you choose. So I answered. You'll notice in my first post I reference how different they are in size, and that OP should really sit in them back to back.

For my everyday commute, the Macan is plenty for myself and 1 kid. When its three of us, plus stuff, we take the X5. If I had to choose one, it would still be the Macan.
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But the question the OP asked was which would you choose. So I answered. You'll notice in my first post I reference how different they are in size, and that OP should really sit in them back to back.

For my everyday commute, the Macan is plenty for myself and 1 kid. When its three of us, plus stuff, we take the X5. If I had to choose one, it would still be the Macan.
Good point well made.

I guess it comes down to personal preference in the end as well. Love Porsche and have owned a number of them, but I'd actually choose X5 over a Macan. There's a load lugging ability and general utility to the X5 that I prefer. Driving it, it also felt a little "cheap" to me that the X5 and other Porsche offerings don't in the same way - but haven't driven the LCI as yet so that may be better.
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I opted for a Cayenne E Hybrid over the 45e I had ordered. The Cayenne is faster (the E Hybrid is faster than the Cayenne S as well) handles better (because you can get the suspension upgrades on it, BMW doesn't let Americans have DHP in anything less than the M50i) and with the club leather interior, a much more luxurious place than the X5 (my ordered 45e had the Merino option). Yes I paid the Porsche tax of an extra $30k over the BMW, but for me I felt it was worth it. All that said, I have a G01 M40i as well, and would never consider a Macan over it, the G01 is the better car for the money and $100k on a Macan is ridiculous.
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I have a Cayman GT4 and it is an epic car and for me a keeper. The new 4.0 GTS is also a stunning car - I'd look at both of them if you are going down that route...
Yup will deffo kook at both! The 4.0 GTS sounds superb vs it's predecessor.
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BMW doesn't let Americans have DHP in anything less than the M50i)
Odd that it is available on the X7 50i and M50i. Not sure if on 40i but I assumed it was available for the G05 equivalent.
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      10-21-2020, 12:03 PM   #31
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I honestly think the OP is not comparing the right vehicles. The Mecan and X5 are not the same caliber of vehicles. The Mecan should rightfully be compared to the X3 to make more sense out of this comparison because both of these 2 vehicles are catered to 2 different demographic of people.
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Hands down X5 M50i is one of the best SUVs in the market in terms of looks, handling, and power in this price range.

We own both, a Macan GTS (wifey drives) and 19 50i, they are very different cars. In terms of power, Porsches in general, feel underpowered since they lack low-end torque. The new M50i has 553 lb-ft torque vs 383 on the GTS, you will definitely notice that difference even at low rpms.

The GTS, because it's lighter, it feels nimble and light for a SUV, but it really lacks power, often times you have to smash the gas to really feel it move. Once you are used to BMW's V8s and their torque, it's hard to go with Porsches, they all feel underpowered to me. The tech on BMWs is also much better.

Every time I drive the GTS, I can't wait to get back to the X5.
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BMW doesn't let Americans have DHP in anything less than the M50i)
Odd that it is available on the X7 50i and M50i. Not sure if on 40i but I assumed it was available for the G05 equivalent.
No, if you get an M50i you can order DHP, but the 40i doesn't have it as an option. I found it very odd since you could order it on an F15 35i.
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That is bizarre. G07 has it as option and the F15 did as well.

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I honestly think the OP is not comparing the right vehicles.
Agreed, they're shopping price points not vehicle vs. vehicle.
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Hands down X5 M50i is one of the best SUVs in the market in terms of looks, handling, and power in this price range.

We own both, a Macan GTS (wifey drives) and 19 50i, they are very different cars. In terms of power, Porsches in general, feel underpowered since they lack low-end torque. The new M50i has 553 lb-ft torque vs 383 on the GTS, you will definitely notice that difference even at low rpms.

The GTS, because it's lighter, it feels nimble and light for a SUV, but it really lacks power, often times you have to smash the gas to really feel it move. Once you are used to BMW's V8s and their torque, it's hard to go with Porsches, they all feel underpowered to me. The tech on BMWs is also much better.

Every time I drive the GTS, I can't wait to get back to the X5.
Couldn't have said it better. (I guess it depends on your driving style as well.) For me, I love having the low end torque where just a little bit of throttle is needed for a lane change into quicker traffic etc. The GTS you have to put the pedal to the floor for the same effect.
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Agreed, they're shopping price points not vehicle vs. vehicle.
Yes, I’m absolutely shopping price points, which leave the higher level Cayennes off the menu.

I have $100k budget and I love the Macan GTS for it’s handling and the X5 M50 for its drivetrain and tech.

They both put a ridiculous smile on my face when I drive them, so I guess it really doesn’t matter.

My wife has a Highlander that I can use for hauling kids and stuff. In my M550, I’ve only had my wife and 3 kids in the car two times in 3 years.
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Understood and I assumed as much but going about it like that is like saying "I want to spend $120 on dinner tonight" or "I just want a woman as my spouse."
In that price range you have a very broad range of offerings and then some. You need to figure out what exactly you're looking for in a daily/longterm and go from there.
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Hands down X5 M50i is one of the best SUVs in the market in terms of looks, handling, and power in this price range.

We own both, a Macan GTS (wifey drives) and 19 50i, they are very different cars. In terms of power, Porsches in general, feel underpowered since they lack low-end torque. The new M50i has 553 lb-ft torque vs 383 on the GTS, you will definitely notice that difference even at low rpms.

The GTS, because it's lighter, it feels nimble and light for a SUV, but it really lacks power, often times you have to smash the gas to really feel it move. Once you are used to BMW's V8s and their torque, it's hard to go with Porsches, they all feel underpowered to me. The tech on BMWs is also much better.

Every time I drive the GTS, I can't wait to get back to the X5.
This makes sense to me. I’m in Maryland where there are certainly more stoplights than canyon roads. Torque likely trumps handling in my use case.
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Great spec on the GTS.

If you already drove a base, then you have a feel for the size. The GTS will drive better with AS, PASM, PSE, Turbo brakes, and obviously more power. And full leather, carbon, burm stereo etc bring the interior way upscale.

You're seeing significant BMW bias here as expected. My opinion, having both of these cars in my garage right now, I would easily choose the Macan over the X5 if I had to only have one.
Thanks, Rohms. I may yet get the Macan just because I’d like to own a Porsche at least once. Variety is the spice of life.
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Thanks, Rohms. I may yet get the Macan just because I’d like to own a Porsche at least once. Variety is the spice of life.
LOL. Yes, after five (and now today, six) Bimmers, I decided I wanted to try a Porsche at least once in this lifetime.

Though after owning the Macan GTS, I may end up down this P-road again...
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I was in the same arena over the last year, and decided to go with the 45e simply because of the difference in price (taxes credits from business use and $7500 tax credit), interior dimensions, less buttons (Porsche Macan will look some different inside shortly-just look at the Cayenne today), and I test drove a 2018 GTS Macan and then the 45e and the turbo lag was the final straw when I was looking at 50 mpge with the 45e with no lag and 18 mpg with the GTS in sport mode for no lag.

I agree with the comment, what is your priority, and go with it. I will say I have 2 friends that had the Macan and they loved it but said too small.....
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This is the main reason why my decision is X5 vs Macan and not X5 vs Cayenne. The Cayenne was outrageously expensive.

This is my Macan build: http://www.porsche-code.com/PMTKA5K3

This is my X5 build: https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...gmjhkv/summary
Great build on the M50, the only thing I'll add is DHP with rear steering if it's available
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Great build on the M50, the only thing I'll add is DHP with rear steering if it's available
There was another thread on this recently and it really comes down to DHP vs 2-Axel Air Suspension, which also includes rear wheel steering. Between the two, I think I’d prefer the all around air suspension. I’m following that debate over there.

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