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2021 X5 M50i 50 75.76%
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Wait 6 months to see if Soft Close Doors come back 4 6.06%
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      10-22-2020, 05:44 AM   #45
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There was another thread on this recently and it really comes down to DHP vs 2-Axel Air Suspension, which also includes rear wheel steering. Between the two, I think I’d prefer the all around air suspension. I’m following that debate over there.

My question is whether to go with Carbon Black or Tanzanite Blue. Is the Tanzanite worth $2k? I keep my vehicles clean (at least during the honeymoon phase - 2 years) so it may be.
I'm picking up my Tanzanite blue car next week - will post lots of pics. I have been getting Carbon Black X5s - have decided to go TB this time for a change.

I would definitely get Rear steer - from driving it the car feels more nimble and has a noticeably tighter turning circle.

BTW - choosing between a GTS and M50i - there are no bad options...
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      10-22-2020, 06:13 AM   #46
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I'm picking up my Tanzanite blue car next week - will post lots of pics. I have been getting Carbon Black X5s - have decided to go TB this time for a change.

I would definitely get Rear steer - from driving it the car feels more nimble and has a noticeably tighter turning circle.

BTW - choosing between a GTS and M50i - there are no bad options...
Did you go with DHP or 2-Axel Air Suspension?
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      10-22-2020, 06:27 AM   #47
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Did you go with DHP or 2-Axel Air Suspension?
I ended up going X5M Competition - which unfortunately doesn't have 2-axle air. I think I would have gone air if I'd chosen M50i as I love the way you can lower it. Yes it's not as good as DHP in the corners but for the M50i I think it makes some sense - giving it a more "iron fist in a velvet glove" dynamic. Having said that I drove a standard M50i (non DHP / non-air) and an X5 45e on 2-axle air when I was test driving.
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      10-22-2020, 03:05 PM   #48
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I’ve been lurking around these forums for months and have posted two or three threads on various forums regarding my next vehicle. I currently have a 2018 M550 and lease is up next month. I’m in no rush because I have another car (M240) I could drive if I order something.

I thought I wanted to go smaller so my dealership ordered me a loaded X3 M40, but I couldn’t get past the relative cheapness of the interior versus the M550. The GM said, “What else can I order for you?” Great dealership.

I test drove the X5 M50 and wow, what a motor and a beautiful interior. Though I’m very disappointed that soft close doors aren’t available. I’m leaning towards the Macan GTS for its superior ride/handling balance and rarity. Velvet Hammer vs Scalpel. Optioned as I would want them, either one is right around $100K.

All else being equal which would you choose and why?
This is comparing apples to oranges
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      10-23-2020, 01:07 AM   #49
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My folks have both a new Macan S and a G05 X5. They got the Macan because of their regret with how aloof and numb the X5 feels to drive. The Porsche picks up where the E90 left off, whereas the G05 is just a nice commuter car/mall cruiser but not remotely fun to drive until it stiffens up around 50+ mph. The handling, steering, nimbleness, and overall "feel" of the Porsche is just so satisfying. The ride/handling balance is excellent, as the vehicle feels taught and hunkered down without being stiff enough to beat you up. Whereas the X5 feels like a nausea-inducing boat.

With all that being said, the X5 is far more luxurious with better tech/ergonomics, more spacious, etc. The Macan's interior reminds me of a compact sport sedan in how "fitted" it feels like a well tailored suit, but it's not as nice in design/ergonomics/tech.

The issue with comparing X5 and Cayenne is that the Cayenne has become ridiculously expensive. I believe the S starts are like $85k, and with just a couple packages and nicer wheels it'll easily hit $100k. That's too much money in my opinion.
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If OP is purchasing, Macan GTS holds its value like a champion vs. any BMW including M cars.

No brainer if its a purchase, leasing-wise, BMW has a huge advantage.
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      10-23-2020, 03:38 PM   #51
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Go for the GTS. Like you said, you already have a Highlander for hauling, so no need really to go for a bigger SUV. Like others have said, Macan is a hot hatch on stilts, and drives excellently, even for an SUV. Its pricey, but it does hold its value well, and at the end of the day its your wallet OP, whatever you feel comfortable paying.

My one other recommendation to try out would be the GLC 63 AMG. It seems like one of the things you really enjoyed from the M50i was the V8. The GLC in a sense bridges the Macan and X5. Not as big as the X5, and closer to the Macan in size, but much roomier interior. It won't handle as well as the Macan (no SUV other than Alfa can top it in my opinion), but its still really fun, and the AMG Biturbo V8 is excellent. I find the interior also a nice bridge, its not going to be as luxurious as the X5 or Macan, however I find it much nicer than the X3, and it does have plenty of nice materials such as a leather dash (optional) and door panels, and more soft touch materials in areas where the X3 is hard-touch plastic (center console, lower door panels), and it rides better than the stiff X3M, albeit not as soft as a Macan (with Air Suspension) or X5. The wife ended up picking up a GLC (albeit a 300, not AMG) over the X3 primarily because of the interior.

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So just to close the loop on this...

I ended up shopping my Macan GTS build around the local Porsche dealers to compare discounts. One of them went ahead and ordered it without my knowledge, then reached out and said “Hey, that exact Macan you wanted? It’s here, come drive it.” Which was awesome, but then while I was there test driving the Macan I saw something that really caught my eye and wouldn’t let go.

So I ended up getting rid of the M550 and my M240 and taking home a
2020 911 Carrera 4S.

I am absolutely in love. I drive it at least an hour or two a day, no real destination. I know “purists” like to shit on the AWD, but I love the feeling of all four wheels grasping for traction on launch or corner exit. It has all the track options - Sport Chrono, rear axel steering, PDCC, etc so I’ll have to track it next Spring.

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So just to close the loop on this...

I ended up shopping my Macan GTS build around the local Porsche dealers to compare discounts. One of them went ahead and ordered it without my knowledge, then reached out and said “Hey, that exact Macan you wanted? It’s here, come drive it.” Which was awesome, but then while I was there test driving the Macan I saw something that really caught my eye and wouldn’t let go.

So I ended up getting rid of the M550 and my M240 and taking home a
2020 911 Carrera 4S.

I am absolutely in love. I drive it at least an hour or two a day, no real destination. I know “purists” like to shit on the AWD, but I love the feeling of all four wheels grasping for traction on launch or corner exit. It has all the track options - Sport Chrono, rear axel steering, PDCC, etc so I’ll have to track it next Spring.

I hope to return to the BMW family in the future. Thank you BimmerPost community for all your help over the years!
Congratulations. Good luck, enjoy and be safe. See you in a few years.
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Had a 2018 GTS, it’s a hot hatch not an SUV. Said that, it drives great but the lack of low end torque was disappointing. My 40i feels faster.
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Had a 2018 GTS, it’s a hot hatch not an SUV. Said that, it drives great but the lack of low end torque was disappointing. My 40i feels faster.
Agreed. The lack of low end torque made it feel significantly slower than my dad’s new X3 M40i. For $30K more, I just couldn’t accept that, regardless of how much better the ride and handling was.
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Had a 2018 GTS, it’s a hot hatch not an SUV. Said that, it drives great but the lack of low end torque was disappointing. My 40i feels faster.
The Macan is a chics vehicle and so is a Boxster. Cayenne and 911 are far more male oriented Porsche line vehicles.
$100,000+ for a Macan is ridiculous.
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Had a 2018 GTS, it’s a hot hatch not an SUV. Said that, it drives great but the lack of low end torque was disappointing. My 40i feels faster.
The Macan is a chics vehicle and so is a Boxster. Cayenne and 911 are far more male oriented Porsche line vehicles.
$100,000+ for a Macan is ridiculous.
I have seen you post that a vehicle is a chic or dude car before, what is your "reasoning" for this? If it is due to which gender tends to be the driver, then all SUVs are chic cars...
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I have seen you post that a vehicle is a chic or dude car before, what is your "reasoning" for this? If it is due to which gender tends to be the driver, then all SUVs are chic cars...
I don't know any guy who has interest in these petite class SUVs and sports cars. Macans and Boxsters are abundant in the area where we live and almost always driven by women. I know what I see everyday here. It could be wildly different where you live but I really doubt it.
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I don't know any guy who has interest in these petite class SUVs and sports cars. Macans and Boxsters are abundant in the area where we live and almost always driven by women. I know what I see everyday here. It could be wildly different where you live but I really doubt it.
I'm in TX, so any SUV you see is 90% of the time, driven by a woman. Plenty of Men in Macans and Boxsters here too. You can see my vehicles in my signature, and I'm a woman, so I don't fit your "chic" car idea either. I tend to not judge vehicles based on gender, but I'm a car chic so maybe I view things a bit differently.
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I never understood the point of soft close doors unless you have some disease that prevents you from using 1% of your available strength to give the door enough momentum to fully close.

My GF has softs on her 2016 X6 and never notice them since I don't pussy foot the doors?

Just a solution to a problem that doesn't exist and creates a point of failure.
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Talking gender is not a problem but your generally misogynistic remarks and sex/racial stereotyping is what causes people to be on you. You were behaving for awhile after the last time everyone called you out but you are falling back into the at crap again. My suggestion would be to think just a bit prior to typing. It is not a political thing either as I am on the same side of the aisle as you seem to be. It is just a matter of decent discourse on a public forum.
There are some vehicles seriously designed for women. I personally always saw the RR evoque as a woman's car. Also the Lexus NX- its literally got a built in lip stick holder and removable mirror for applying lipstick.
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I never understood the point of soft close doors
Many points... you do not have to slam the door, you are almost certain to close the door every time, if you have children or elderly exiting/entering you do not have to do the awkward "your door is open" thing, I've had this option on every car I have owned which offered it going back to the Acura Legend. Lastly my cabinets, drawers and stove have soft close doors so why not my car?
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Macan base : Chick car
Macan GTS: Dude Car
I think this is the key. It's all about spec.
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I think this is the key. It's all about spec.
I looked at the Macan closely before I bought a Cayenne. The Macan is just too small as is the X3. Cayenne or X5 is a much better fit for most guys my size and bigger(6' 3"). I don't mind crunching and contorting to get in a 911 or Corvette but in an SUV, forget about it.
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I've been lurking around these forums for months and have posted two or three threads on various forums regarding my next vehicle. I currently have a 2018 M550 and lease is up next month. I'm in no rush because I have another car (M240) I could drive if I order something.

I thought I wanted to go smaller so my dealership ordered me a loaded X3 M40, but I couldn't get past the relative cheapness of the interior versus the M550. The GM said, "What else can I order for you?" Great dealership.

I test drove the X5 M50 and wow, what a motor and a beautiful interior. Though I'm very disappointed that soft close doors aren't available. I'm leaning towards the Macan GTS for its superior ride/handling balance and rarity. Velvet Hammer vs Scalpel. Optioned as I would want them, either one is right around $100K.

All else being equal which would you choose and why?
The 2 cars are nowhere near equal! Price may be the only commonality. I recently test drove a macan S and own a base X5. I am currently waiting for my new suv.

Since ive never driven any of those cars, i cant say how the driving or interior is between the gts, m50i or x5 m. I do know the macan s drove like a car and it was very nimble and agile but it lacked power. I also know my x5 has a fantastic engine but it drives like a boat and it has no feedback whatsoever.

Between the two cars you listed, i would pick the macan gts but i like smaller cars and my decision is based on the macan s and the base x5. I want to point out, i couldnt get over for 85k you get sub 400 hp and torque. 375 to be exact.
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