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      10-08-2020, 05:58 PM   #45
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There was no intention to criticize. I wanted to understand the reasoning. I still don't.

Why did that lead to posts that you perceive as criticism you may ask? That's because Noelle has a reputation--a reputation that many believe includes them posting their own accolades as supposed consumers. It's tough to distinguish reality from underhanded marketing.

In addition, they abuse novice potential customers by publishing restrictions that prevent their tunes from being comparably tested.

These things and so many occurrences of unsubstantiated posts (sorry, OP, but just like yours) that *always* --and I mean every single time--come from apparent customers that have no online history/credibility/reputation... combined, they've caused these skeptical responses seeking some, any kind of validation.
Next time please, leave us users with our thoughts about our vehicles alone, especially when it seems you and others who are bashing my decision and choice don’t even have an X5 40i series.

Leave users like me who can’t afford expensive M vehicles alone in our petty low level class please.

And if you don’t like some company, then go create a thread of your own and bash their companies and not forum users personal experiences or decisions.
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Next time please, leave us users with our thoughts about our vehicles alone, especially when it seems you and others who are bashing my decision and choice don’t even have an X5 40i series.

Leave users like me who can’t afford expensive M vehicles alone in our petty low level class please.

And if you don’t like some company, then go create a thread of your own and bash their companies and not forum users personal experiences or decisions.
Out of curiosity, why not take it to the dyno for $100 to shut down people that are doubting anything you are saying? It also allows you to evaluate what your vehicle is doing. It is a lot of fun and takes 60 minutes most.
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Out of curiosity, why not take it to the dyno for $100 to shut down people that are doubting anything you are saying? It also allows you to evaluate what your vehicle is doing. It is a lot of fun and takes 60 minutes most.
Ask Noelle and their dealers that do the installations. Then create your own thread and bash Noelle. If you don’t have anything positive to contribute to my thread, please don’t post anything and leave my purchase and experience alone.
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Ask Noelle and their dealers that do the installations. Then create your own thread and bash Noelle. If you don’t have anything positive to contribute to my thread, please don’t post anything and leave my purchase and experience alone.
Dude, this is a forum for BMW enthusiasts. We are ALLOWED to ask questions and you should expect them. Your responses are making you sound like a fanboy with literally zero knowledge. People asked for a little info and your reply was my car feels fast. Cool story bro.
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Next time please, leave us users with our thoughts about our vehicles alone, especially when it seems you and others who are bashing my decision and choice don’t even have an X5 40i series.

Leave users like me who can’t afford expensive M vehicles alone in our petty low level class please.

And if you don’t like some company, then go create a thread of your own and bash their companies and not forum users personal experiences or decisions.
... ummm, I'll unpack that one by one:

1. No
2. Sorry you can't afford an "M"--I have no idea how that factors in here--care to explain? Oh no, I forgot, you don't or can't do that
3. I don't like them, correct
4. I don't want to
5. Decision? Hahahahaha... good one.

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... ummm, I'll unpack that one by one:

1. No
2. Sorry you can't afford an "M"--I have no idea how that factors in here--care to explain? Oh no, I forgot, you don't or can't do that
3. I don't like them, correct
4. I don't want to
5. Decision? Hahahahaha... good one.


I’ll say it once more...if you don’t have an X5 40i series, just get off my thread? It has zero relevance to you or your vehicle.
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Dude, this is a forum for BMW enthusiasts. We are ALLOWED to ask questions and you should expect them. Your responses are making you sound like a fanboy with literally zero knowledge. People asked for a little info and your reply was my car feels fast. Cool story bro.
I agree...but my thread is pertaining to anyone with an X5 40i series. So stop being such a hater of my decision and leave my thread? Simple. I’m not selling my decision to anybody? I’m sharing my experience and My decision so far.

To me, it sounds like yourself and all the experienced forum members criticizing my decision have either a very negative personality where you Love arguments or have some affiliation with other tuning companies or products?

Leave me alone.
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I’ll say it once more...if you don’t have an X5 40i series, just get off my thread? It has zero relevance to you or your vehicle.
Ya know Pal, there are a number of guys on here who are very well versed on this stuff and also very helpful. I've asked them some questions and have gained some very important knowledge and insights. You seem angry and are acting like a real jagoff, lighten up, you might learn something.
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For you few negative forum members continuing to be a cancer on my thread.....what’s the problem?

1. I paid for a tune that I wanted.
2. I’m sharing what I did if any other fellow forum user is also looking for some type of tune.
3. So what’s the problem???

Did I applaud and drool over my Noelle tune? I’m simply happy so far it expressed my happiness for something I did on MY vehicle. All I’m getting from a few of you is criticism when you don’t share my same vehicle.

Just leave my thread and share your own experiences.
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Ya know Pal, there are a number of guys on here who are very well versed on this stuff and also very helpful. I've asked them some questions and have gained some very important knowledge and insights. You seem angry and are acting like a real jagoff, lighten up, you might learn something.
You can also please stay off my thread if you have nothing relevant or positive to contribute.
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I understand. Just took delivery of a '21 X5 M50i and have about 500 miles on the clock so not quite at breakin point. I'm thinking of a JB4 at about 2,000 miles. I don't believe that the EWG level of tuning is up and running on the JB4 for my vehicle as of yet as the install instructions that I have seen posted say to just tuck them away for now. Sounds like those connections are little trickier to make also.
Either way looking forward to running the JB4.
Got it.

Based on the N63R install guide (https://www.n54tech.com/instructions/JB4_G_N63R.pdf), you can now use the JB4 with EWGs in-place--I'd wholeheartedly recommend you do, it makes a big difference.

I usually add my JB4 on day one and leave it on map 0 until the break-in service is done. 2,000 miles seems like a decent safety margin.
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I’ll say it once more...if you don’t have an X5 40i series, just get off my thread? It has zero relevance to you or your vehicle.
Likewise. No.

// EDIT: that's unfair of me, I'll reserve my comments to questions about tunes that span BMW models.
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Likewise. No.
Likewise? You already said that you don’t have a X5 40i series???
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Got it.

Based on the N63R install guide (https://www.n54tech.com/instructions/JB4_G_N63R.pdf), you can now use the JB4 with EWGs in-place--I'd wholeheartedly recommend you do, it makes a big difference.

I usually add my JB4 on day one and leave it on map 0 until the break-in service is done. 2,000 miles seems like a decent safety margin.
Oh, OK, didn't know that, thanks for that advice. Is there anywhere I can find pics or some instructions on making these connections or will that all be with the JB4 when I get it, do you know.
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Likewise? You already said that you don’t have a X5 40i series???
Ah, no, no--I see the language problem... the 'likewise' was in refer... meh, I can't be bothered.
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Oh, OK, didn't know that, thanks for that advice. Is there anywhere I can find pics or some instructions on making these connections or will that all be with the JB4 when I get it, do you know.
That link I enclosed is to the Burger Tuning PDF for your X5 model and MY--it's pretty decent now.

Good luck!
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That link I enclosed is to the Burger Tuning PDF for your X5 model and MY--it's pretty decent now.

Good luck!
Yes, good link, shows the TMAP connection points and CanBus cable routing. I'm not sure where the EWG connections are made. I'm guessing that would be accessed from underneath?
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That link I enclosed is to the Burger Tuning PDF for your X5 model and MY--it's pretty decent now.

Good luck!
Yes, good link, shows the TMAP connection points and CanBus cable routing. I'm not sure where the EWG connections are made. I'm guessing that would be accessed from underneath?
Mine were accessible from the top but I don't know how similar our engines are. With my aging back, I usually find a competent European-interested mechanic—my last guy back in WA was phenomenal so I'm on the hunt here. I digress; my point being it takes a skilled mechanic about 25 mins for all 5 connections plus a bit of prep for the Bluetooth hookup beforehand—I'd recommend giving that approach a shot.
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hi.

noelle is a bullshit company. gonna take a stab in the dark here based on the few clowns that tried this stunt on the f90 threads, and say you dont have a noelle tune, and/or you are an affiliate of noelle trying to sell an overly expensive bs software.

thats all. i conquer with everything else limeypride says.
i have an m5, and an x3. so i guess that puts me in the middle of your automotive economic pyramid you mentioned previously. 😴😴
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You can also please stay off my thread if you have nothing relevant or positive to contribute.
Dude, this isn't "your" thread - it's an open thread on an open forum, available to all **and for all**

There's good and useful information here so stop trying to shut people down
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Yup...I’m officially done with this thread I started. It turned into something negative and absolutely useless to my sharing experience.
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Yup...I’m officially done with this thread I started. It turned into something negative and absolutely useless to my sharing experience.
What you are referring to as "your thread" is nothing more than a shameless plug for a highly questionable product with a poor reputation and unsubstantiated results. Things will be much better for you here if you lose the bad attitude.
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