[perikifi]

Originally Posted by Heavyd

I also thought about the same question for the same route 😀
In the morning or evening traffic jam or when you have to drive really slow for a long distance can this best be done electrically or on ICE?

In my admittedly short experience, electric is great in slow driving. I suppose it is not wasting energy on idling or bad efficiency in wrong RPM.

[X5 45e]

In traffic jam electric is best. The car will chose this anyway if you put in hybrid or adaptive. When on the highway above 100 - 110 it will chose the ICE. You can override this by putting it in electric uptil 130 km. So if you come back from Brussels and you see you still have 30 Km electric range left you could put it in electric and it will not use the ICE unless you accelerate hard. This way your battery will be empty on arrival. You can also put your trip botways in the navigation en it should try to arrive back home with an empty battery. But this didn't really work with me with a nearly all highway trip without traffic jam. I think 60 km highway might be to much on electric only. You can also take the a12 ? More traffic lights to do a sprintje

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by Heavyd

ICE is completely off when you drive electric? ICE stays "cold"? It would be nice if it would get an operating temperature for in case you need it when driving.

That's what I mean. For the last week my ICE hasn't been on. So in an occasional sprint it would be completely cold. I don't think pre heating heats the ICE but just the battery and the passenger compartment.

[Jafayz]

Originally Posted by jonjo001

From my experience of Motorway driving, like the E19, the car is really good at recovering energy to the battery when the traffic ebbs and flows. I have started a journey with 25miles range and ended doing 32 miles on electric for instance. If you are just using electrical energy the whole time, I would still expect you to be able to most of the journey on electric. If you use SatNav each time and the car in Adaptive mode, it will know what the route is like and adjust energy usage to suit, such as retaining energy to use in a city, or knowing that a roundabout is coming up and being more active with recovery.

I have mine for a week now and already had Quite some commute... 900 kms for now with quite some highways without that much of traffic jams ... 7,4 L /100 km by average . Quite pleased!
With regard to the insurance, quite strange they accept it as "gelijkvormigheidattest " has to be updated?

[Heavyd]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

That's what I mean. For the last week my ICE hasn't been on. So in an occasional sprint it would be completely cold. I don't think pre heating heats the ICE but just the battery and the passenger compartment.

Don't you think the ICE will get heat to get an operating temperature when you drive electrically. Just to prepare the engine for when it's needed so it's not really "cold"?

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by Heavyd

Don't you think the ICE will get heat to get an operating temperature when you drive electrically. Just to prepare the engine for when it's needed so it's not really "cold"?

I don't really know but it would be better indeed. There is no temperature meter in all electric mode. I know that cabin heating is electric en not on the ICE as in an conventional car. I had a 40e before and in that car the temp. meter didn't move when I was driving electric.

[Jafayz]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

I don't really know but it would be better indeed. There is no temperature meter in all electric mode. I know that cabin heating is electric en not on the ICE as in an conventional car. I had a 40e before and in that car the temp. meter didn't move when I was driving electric.

I believe dat we allemaal Nederlands kunnen spreken, veel Belgen hier in fiscale vriendelijke topic . Ik denk zelfs dat België bij de eerste landen was om de hybrid uit te leveren. Kunnen we zelfs apart topic over beginnen

[ikheetleon]

Noorderbuur (NL) hier!

[W0ut]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

I don't really know but it would be better indeed. There is no temperature meter in all electric mode. I know that cabin heating is electric en not on the ICE as in an conventional car. I had a 40e before and in that car the temp. meter didn't move when I was driving electric.

There is a temperature indicator in the 'sport view'. The one with the G power graph in the middle.

It works even when in full electric

[X5 45e]

Thanks for the tip. I think I will be doing quite some electric km tomorrow. I will see what happens to the engine temp. Ps in het Nederlands door gaan zal toch niet echt de bedoeling zijn op een Engels talig forum? Of kan dat?

[pho]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

You can also take the a12 ? More traffic lights to do a sprintje

This... Is a most excellent point that I didn't think about.
I took the A12 from where I used to live, but E19 is way more practical for me now (and faster even with the jams; A12 is no joke lately)

The amount of Belgians on here talking about a PHEV is an indication that the government(s) are at least getting the push towards green(er) company cars right

[2REP]

Originally Posted by pho

This... Is a most excellent point that I didn't think about.
I took the A12 from where I used to live, but E19 is way more practical for me now (and faster even with the jams; A12 is no joke lately)

The amount of Belgians on here talking about a PHEV is an indication that the government(s) are at least getting the push towards green(er) company cars right

If I remember correctly my dealer told me almost 900 had been ordered in Belgium already last August (so before they actually started making them) Not sure if that's true but if the amount of Belgian 45e owners on this forum is an indication he could have been right

I'm finally picking up mine next week

[X5 45e]

I ordered mine in May. Longest wait ever for a car. But worth it. Have fun next week. One tip if you can't get connected to the Connected drive app because you don't get a confirmation number in idrive just call CD helpdesk and they can activated your app online. Took me 2 days of trying.

[2REP]

Originally Posted by W0ut

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Also the engine can charge the battery during driving as well. I'm wondering if, for the charging during driving, it uses the 'spare performance' of the down-tuned engine?

Any insights or other pro / cons?

I talked to an engineer yesterday at the BMW event at the opening of the auto fair (autosalon) and he stated that for best charging you need to put it in Sport mode, which makes sense as you are not using the Electric engine, but he stated that the charging ratio in that mode is 1:1 , so 1 km electric range for each km driven in sports mode. Older models only achieved a 1:3 ratio. Of course this results in higher fuel consumption.

So would it be possible that tuning the engine and increasing the HP/Torque could result in lower consumption when driving in sports and charging the batteries (on long trips for example)

Just trying to find reasons to have mine tuned .. lol

[2REP]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

I ordered mine in May. Longest wait ever for a car. But worth it. Have fun next week. One tip if you can't get connected to the Connected drive app because you don't get a confirmation number in idrive just call CD helpdesk and they can activated your app online. Took me 2 days of trying.

Thanks for the tip Heading to the dealer tomorrow to already try and add it

[Heavyd]

Originally Posted by 2REP

I talked to an engineer yesterday at the BMW event at the opening of the auto fair (autosalon) and he stated that for best charging you need to put it in Sport mode, which makes sense as you are not using the Electric engine, but he stated that the charging ratio in that mode is 1:1 , so 1 km electric range for each km driven in sports mode. Older models only achieved a 1:3 ratio. Of course this results in higher fuel consumption.

So would it be possible that tuning the engine and increasing the HP/Torque could result in lower consumption when driving in sports and charging the batteries (on long trips for example)

Just trying to find reasons to have mine tuned .. lol

So if you drive 90km in sport mode you could charge the battery completely? So less than a hour driving for a complete charge or 7 hours in the plug? Maybe I will go for a sporty drive in the evening then

Did he say how much higher fuel consumption?

Good reasons are 530HP and 785NM

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by 2REP

I talked to an engineer yesterday at the BMW event at the opening of the auto fair (autosalon) and he stated that for best charging you need to put it in Sport mode, which makes sense as you are not using the Electric engine, but he stated that the charging ratio in that mode is 1:1 , so 1 km electric range for each km driven in sports mode. Older models only achieved a 1:3 ratio. Of course this results in higher fuel consumption.

So would it be possible that tuning the engine and increasing the HP/Torque could result in lower consumption when driving in sports and charging the batteries (on long trips for example)

Just trying to find reasons to have mine tuned .. lol

Haha. Doesn't sound to me that you need to be convinced. But if makes you feel better : go for it.

[perikifi]

Originally Posted by Heavyd

So if you drive 90km in sport mode you could charge the battery completely? So less than a hour driving for a complete charge or 7 hours in the plug? Maybe I will go for a sporty drive in the evening then

Did he say how much higher fuel consumption?

Good reasons are 530HP and 785NM

I just charged mine from 25 % to 90 % while driving 60 km this morning. Some city driving, some 80 km/h and some 60 km/h resulted in around 16 l/100km consumption (0 km electric). I will be driving back this afternoon to see if it goes electric all the way. And same thing tomorrow, will test gas only without charging to see how much charging adds to the consumption.

Note that it's not exactly Sport mode but rather Battery control mode, you make it sporty by tilting the gear selector to the left into M/S position. It keeps the RPM higher than normal, probably helping with the charging speed.

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by W0ut

There is a temperature indicator in the 'sport view'. The one with the G power graph in the middle.

It works even when in full electric

After 15 minutes electric drive. Temperature is 50 (or less)

[Heavyd]

Originally Posted by perikifi

I just charged mine from 25 % to 90 % while driving 60 km this morning. Some city driving, some 80 km/h and some 60 km/h resulted in around 16 l/100km consumption (0 km electric). I will be driving back this afternoon to see if it goes electric all the way. And same thing tomorrow, will test gas only without charging to see how much charging adds to the consumption.

Note that it's not exactly Sport mode but rather Battery control mode, you make it sporty by tilting the gear selector to the left into M/S position. It keeps the RPM higher than normal, probably helping with the charging speed.

16l that sounds very environmental and ecological

[X5 45e]

Originally Posted by Heavyd

16l that sounds very environmental and ecological

From an ecological or financial point it wouldn't make sense indeed. Probably the only reason to charge up to 100% is like Wout mentioned for having a fully charged battery during skiing Holliday. I did the same three years ago in order to be able to do pre heating.

[Heavyd]

Originally Posted by X5 45e

From an ecological or financial point it wouldn't make sense indeed. Probably the only reason to charge up to 100% is like Wout mentioned for having a fully charged battery during skiing Holliday. I did the same three years ago in order to be able to do pre heating.

Yes, when I have the car and we go on summer holiday to Austria with the car electrical drive will be reduced to a minimum. Maybe occasional charging when driving. Consumption will go through the roof.