[barrowdad]

My 2019 G05 30D X5 M Sport has just failed to extend/retract although it will still rise and fall under control. Tried to get 2 dealers to check if there was a general technical brief from BMW central covering this issue and perhaps some user applied fix to try but both said they would need to see the car first before they could do anything. Booked in for a check!

[Stone41]

My late 2018 X5 G05 in and out stopped working at 1 Year old, approx 15000 miles, the steering column was replaced. It has just gone again at 20000 miles.

It's still under warranty but I'm worried this is going to be a yearly problem. They said it was a £1800 part and probably fitting on top.

I assumed the steering column fault was an issue that was fixed with the replacement. Does anybody know if this next new steering column will last longer than a year.

When these parts fail, you hope that they look at them and modify the parts. I'm hoping that my first replacement was the same part number as the original.

Any thoughts?

S

[DPHTOY]

Mine failed at around 10,000 miles. A total replacement of the steering column solved the issue.

[Stone41]

Originally Posted by DPHTOY

Mine failed at around 10,000 miles. A total replacement of the steering column solved the issue.

It's solved, did they say if the part was a modified unit.

I own my car and tend to keep them for around 10 years. That's a lot of steering columns every 10,000 miles. It's not a problem on a lease, everything is warranty and then you get rid of the problem.

S

[Stone41]

Originally Posted by DPHTOY

Mine failed at around 10,000 miles. A total replacement of the steering column solved the issue.

There are people on the forums suggesting you get the wheel in the correct place and remove the fuse.

This stops the steering wheel going in and up every time you get out. So stops the wear and tear on the motor etc. Not a good option if different people drive the car.

I was going to see if this is an option, it might not work if the fuse is used for other components in the car.

S

[mvigod]

There is a TSB on this. Happens on days over 122 degrees in the cabin

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...81219-9999.pdf

[-Vanguard-]

I don't think I know someone or owned a BMW who's power steering column didn't fail.

BMW must be sourcing these motors from a very cheap place. Its a known BMW thing...bad power steering column and bad power trunks.

[mvigod]

Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

I don't think I know someone or owned a BMW who's power steering column didn't fail.

BMW must be sourcing these motors from a very cheap place. Its a known BMW thing...bad power steering column and bad power trunks.

Has nothing to do with the motor. Read the TSB. It is the motor control unit. As soon as the car cools down the motor works fine and steering wheel functions perfectly. It only doesn't work when over 122 degrees inside the car. It happened to my wife today because it was 95 and her car was out all morning/afternoon baking in the sun. Found the TSB.

Hopefully this helps others who's BMW's are cooking in the heat. Read the TSB link I posted above.

[Mynoles1]

Originally Posted by Stone41

There are people on the forums suggesting you get the wheel in the correct place and remove the fuse.

This stops the steering wheel going in and up every time you get out. So stops the wear and tear on the motor etc. Not a good option if different people drive the car.

I was going to see if this is an option, it might not work if the fuse is used for other components in the car.

S

Stone, any update on this? I would love to disable mine before I start having problems. I'm in Dallas, it's always above 122 in the cabin

Or, if the fuse solution doesn't work because of other connections from that fuse, is there a means of coding it off? No one else drives mine and I do not need it out of the way to get in and out - I'd like it off regardless.

Thanks in advance

[AwesomeM3]

Originally Posted by mvigod

There is a TSB on this. Happens on days over 122 degrees in the cabin

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...81219-9999.pdf

I'm having this problem with my 2020 X5M. It seems on hot days the steering wheel and column won't move into the programmed position after I start the car. The toggle switch on the steering column won't do anything. The cause is most likely the temperature inside the cabin, as described in the SIB. I have to make an appointment to get it fixed.

[-Vanguard-]

Originally Posted by mvigod

Has nothing to do with the motor. Read the TSB. It is the motor control unit. As soon as the car cools down the motor works fine and steering wheel functions perfectly. It only doesn't work when over 122 degrees inside the car. It happened to my wife today because it was 95 and her car was out all morning/afternoon baking in the sun. Found the TSB.

Hopefully this helps others who's BMW's are cooking in the heat. Read the TSB link I posted above.

I dunno man. The last 4 BMWs including my G05 x6 40i that I just traded in had steering column motor issues. The G05 began to chatter while moving forward, while the other 3 all stopped working. Nothing to do with weather. This are all garage kept cars and never get that hot. Hell, it happened in the winter a few times.

Also, the power tailgate motors failed on my last 2 BMWs before my G05.

I am 100% confident in my statement that BMW uses a shitty motor supplier for these 2.

[mvigod]

Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

I dunno man. The last 4 BMWs including my G05 x6 40i that I just traded in had steering column motor issues. The G05 began to chatter while moving forward, while the other 3 all stopped working. Nothing to do with the weather. These are all garage-kept cars and never get that hot. Hell, it happened in the winter a few times.

Also, the power tailgate motors failed on my last 2 BMWs before my G05.

I am 100% confident in my statement that BMW uses a shitty motor supplier for these 2.

Your problem is not the same as the one we are having that is well described in the TSB link I posted. Our steering columns work fine all the time except when it gets hot. there is no chatter. Matter of fact if it was not hot out there would be no issues.

Your issue might be a bad motor. Not disputing that for YOUR case. It just is not what we are experiencing which is a heat-related issue that tells the motor control unit to not even attempt to move at all.

I'll dispute your bad motors claim in general for BMW. I've owned BMW M2 Comp, M3, M5, two X5M's including the GO5, a G05 X5 M50i, two 3 series and two non M X5's. Total bad motors on steering wheel or trunks is ZERO. Your mileage may vary as they say

[Mynoles1]

Guys, regardless of why it breaks down, is there anything we can do to stop it from moving? Fuse pull? Coding??

I have disabled (usually via car function to do so) on every one of these I have ever had across all manufacturer's. They all break at one time or the other. There has got to be a way.......

[mvigod]

Originally Posted by Mynoles1

Guys, regardless of why it breaks down, is there anything we can do to stop it from moving? Fuse pull? Coding??

I have disabled (usually via car function to do so) on every one of these I have ever had across all manufacturer's. They all break at one time or the other. There has got to be a way.......

Send the TSB to your dealer and make service appointment to replace your motor control unit

[AwesomeM3]

Originally Posted by AwesomeM3

I'm having this problem with my 2020 X5M. It seems on hot days the steering wheel and column won't move into the programmed position after I start the car. The toggle switch on the steering column won't do anything. The cause is most likely the temperature inside the cabin, as described in the SIB. I have to make an appointment to get it fixed.

Originally Posted by mvigod

Send the TSB to your dealer and make service appointment to replace your motor control unit

Thanks again to mvigod for posting the TSB! I had my steering column control unit replaced today.

[Multimodal]

Sorry to revive this old thread. Does anyone know what it costs to replace the steering column and/or motor control unit? The electric steering column on my 2019 X5 is making funny noises and failed to auto-adjust when starting the car today.

[csparker]

Almost every time I got in my 2019 BMW X5 G05, the comfort entry steering wheel adjustment would not work properly. It would only come down a small amount, then stop. Very annoying! I figured it may just need to have the worm gear lubricated, and I was right! It's been 2 weeks with no no issues! I was able to use some electric razor lubricant (although there might be a better option, DO NOT use WD40 though). It's hard to reach the worm gear and associated lever (right side of last photo). I ended up using a cut bendy straw, filled it with the lubricant, then maneuvered it in place and dropped on the worm gear and lever. Problem solved for a few bucks and 10 minutes.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by csparker

Almost every time I got in my 2019 BMW X5 G05, the comfort entry steering wheel adjustment would not work properly. It would only come down a small amount, then stop. Very annoying! I figured it may just need to have the work gear lubricated, and I was right! It's been 2 weeks with no no issues! I was able to use some electric razor lubricant (although there might be a better option, DO NOT use WD40 though). It's hard to reach the worm gear and associated lever (right side of last photo). I ended up using a cut bendy straw, filled it with the lubricant, then maneuvered it in place and dropped on the work gear and lever. Problem solved.

Clever idea with the straw. Are you saying you only lubricated the right worm gear or both?

[mobsync]

And how did you get the plastic cover piece lifted?

[csparker]

I probably should've clarified... On my 2019 G05 X5, the worm gear and lever on the right side control the UP/DOWN, the worm gear on the left side controls the IN/OUT telescopic adjustment. I only lubricated the one on the right because that was my only issue.

[csparker]

The plastic piece is just a spring-loaded cover plate which moves up and down with the steering wheel. If you put your steering wheel all the way down (or at least partially down) you can simply lift up on the cover and have relatively easy access to the worm gears. I put a rolled up wash cloth under the cover plate to hold it up while I applied the lubricant.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by csparker

I probably should've clarified... On my 2019 G05 X5, the worm gear and lever on the right side control the UP/DOWN, the worm gear on the left side controls the IN/OUT telescopic adjustment. I only lubricated the one on the right because that was my only issue.

Got it, thanks!