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      03-31-2021, 05:29 AM   #89
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This is a vehicle from a Social Media Group post.

He recently performed a Autoflex Spray on Wrap to his brand new X5 Comp.

Absolutely amazing! Such a beautiful color for this vehicle. And the craftsmanship is impecable.

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It looks great and love the color. But, when you open the door, doesn't look odd with two-tone color?
This is the situation with wraps too. That's why it's smart to buy a black vehicle if you're going to wrap it.
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any details about removal?
Professional removal is required by the manufacturer but I've seen the process and it's not too hard. You create a seam in the middle of a panel by scratching it with a non-marring tool and then it peels. Any wrapped edges need a solvent like xylene to completely come clean.

Here's mine between wrap 1 and 2
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Just some info on my X5’s Autoflex incase anyone is curious on the details behind liquid spray wraps (not plastidip).
Its relatively inexpensive, compared to a good vinyl wrap. I was quoted between $5k and $6k for a comparable orange, with Autoflex I was able to color match BMW’s Fire Orange color and it ran me $3500 and only 2 days to do. While the concept of liquid application is the same as Plastidip, its not the same product at all. Its a 4 stage process, tack coat, 2 base coat (in my case it was avalanche grey) because I was going over black factory color - then the 2 color coats, followed by Autoflex 2k OEM style clear coat. And yes it can be cut/buffed/polished/waxed/ceramic coated and its gas spill safe. You can also use a car wash as it self heals minor swirls in the sun. Lasts 6+ years and is 100% peel-able. Even feels like real paint. Its basically removable paint instead of a vinyl wrap. Most people cant tell its not factory. Installation requires no removing of any trim, bumpers, panels, lights etc like you have to do on vinyl. I’m an orange fanatic so all my cars have been orange and it may not be everyones cup of tea but with Autoflex you can literally make any color you can think of from solids, metallics and “frozen” mattes. Its truly the next level of wrapping and after 4 cars I’m still impressed every time I pick up my car from being done. I also did my wheels and calipers in Autoflex as well since its extremely durable and heat resistant.

Thanks for the shout out Marcus!!
Car is outrageous but a simple question is how you coat the car without removing bumpers nor door. I mean how can you manage all the junction between parts?
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Just some follow ups to questions. Might be long winded but will answer a lot.

This is basically PPF in itself, so I wouldn’t recommend adding an additional layer of PPF. But you can ceramic coat it, wax it, buff/polish/cut just like paint, and being that the foundation is a spray on rubbery application before the clear coat, its a pretty strong PPF itself, most small rocks that cause chips in the front tend to bounce off. But should you get a small rock tear, because its liquid, you just apply the dip from a little applicator, and it bleeds into and fills the hole, add it until it fills the little hole smoothly. Bigger areas, say a door ding or like on my last X5, I had the hatch open and opened the garage without thinking, it put a nice scratch in the dip, but the paint underneath was unharmed. That area was just peeled and resprayed. So it really depends on the level of damage, its like any coating, its not impenetrable, put it does save your factory paint. As for self healing, it wont self heal rock chips as stated above (its not magic) but it will allow you to use the carwash and any micro abrasions cause by a touch wash will actually self heal in the heat of the sun. The top coat is its strength, its a 2k OEM style clear coat that is pretty strong, and will the added cushion of the addition layers underneath, it combines as a cool color change and great (less expensive) PPF coating.
This is my 4th Autoflex Orange vehicle (color matched to BMW Fire Orange), so I actually buy black vehicles, knowing I will dip over it and I personally don’t care to do door jams so for most colors its not bad especially mine with bright orange exterior and black jams, as shown in the pics. These newer X5’s have so much plastic in the engine bay, its hard to tell the factory color from the dip color since very little metal is exposed under the bonnet. Its different on older models, but again, not horrible if you are dipping over a dark vehicle. Was harder when I did my white M4, actually had to do the jams since it looked like a creamsicle when the doors were open.
Because a tack coat is applied and usually a base coat light color, there isn’t any color blending in the original paint if its a lighter color after many years on.
As for not having to remove anything, its liquid, so it fills gaps, breaks clean at tape lines etc so the prep labor is just cleaning and taping, and nothing needs to be removed and only takes 2 days to complete vs 7 days most wrap companies want to disassemble the whole vehicle. Emblems and badge removal are up to the owner, but I left mine on and it was just taped and you cant tell they were even left on.

You do not need to be a professional to remove Autoflex. Its extremely easy, and peels so clean, no residue left behind like PPF or vinyl, and if applied correctly comes off in big even pieces. I’ve attached a peeling video below. And it will peel the same tomorrow as well in 5-6 years.

I think someone asked about leasing - doesn’t matter since its not permanate - my X5M is currently a lease, but my M4 and X5 50i leases were both Autoflex Fire Orange and the dealership I returned them to to get the next vehicle, this X5M being the Latest actually did not want the wrap removed. I see my Orange M4 still roaming the streets here, still shining like new 4 years after application.

One thing I get is “people, stop plastidiping your cars”. This is not plastidip, not close to plastidip, not even the same level as plastidip. While plastidip should peel easy if its applied correctly, Autoflex is on another level and actually feels like paint. With a nice wax and buff, its as smooth as liquid glass. Again for those talking about orange peel, if you analyze it in photos, it can look excessive in the lighting and reflections and under the same lights you can see peel on factory paints - some jobs show more than others, as one poster posted photos, not including the fact that the cars in those photos had horrible paint jobs and were 20+ years old (I’ve attached the full car photo here of the zoomed in shot and a before shot) to show its not as bad as it looks, but its really not noticeable in real life and in most well taken photos. And if it is bothersome to someone, you can cut/polish to get a mirror finish, and even do a flow coat top coat for an extra level of mirror finish. For my flashy orange, flow coat wasn’t needed, but for metallic colors, it really makes them pop in the sun.

Finally the last big question. Why don’t you just paint it, or order individual paint. I didn’t want permanent, I wanted the option to change colors, its a fraction of the price to repaint, and so so so much less work on a brand new vehicle. For individual, you can’t get Fire Orange on the X5M in the individual colors for $5k and addtional build time, for $10K you can get any BMW color from the individual team, no thanks... this works just fine and most people cant even tell.

Hope that answered a bunch of questions.

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Nice! Can you just apply the clear coat stage to a tired factory paint job to liven it up? I have no desire to change the color of my car, but the benefits of a full car ppf that looks great, self heals and costs less is pretty enticing.
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Nice! Can you just apply the clear coat stage to a tired factory paint job to liven it up? I have no desire to change the color of my car, but the benefits of a full car ppf that looks great, self heals and costs less is pretty enticing.
Yes, many just to the tack coat and top clear coat as a PPF with no color change - less expensive too since you aren’t paying for 2 additional color layers, or as gloss treatment.
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Nice follow up David. And again... One of the hottest X5s in the states IMO!
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The orange really isn't my thing, but man, I'm now 100% sure I want to get the wheels on my X6M powdercoated black.
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Love the orange color!!! Very nice ride!
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I respect anyone who has the balls to do something different to the crowd ... the OP has big balls!

I personally prefer bright colours rather than black / white / grey, but it really is a case of whatever floats your boat, and that's the joy of owning a vehicle that ticks all of YOUR boxes

the quality of the work on this BEAST (see number plate!) is impressive, and i've learned something from this thread about the possibilities with this Autoflex kit, that to be honest I'd heard of but had my prejudices about ... thanks OP for the detailed explanations and the great pics

however, i do think the orange roundel was a teensy-weensy step too far!
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however, i do think the orange roundel was a teensy-weensy step too far!
Thanks! Fortunately the roundel colors are just decals and I change them up often since they are so inexpensive. Like I did on my last 50i - Keeps it different. (not sure why the uploaded muted the orange in this photo here...)
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however, i do think the orange roundel was a teensy-weensy step too far!
Thanks! Fortunately the roundel colors are just decals and I change them up often since they are so inexpensive. Like I did on my last 50i - Keeps it different. (not sure why the uploaded muted the orange in this photo here...)
Where do. You get the roundel stickers?
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Where do. You get the roundel stickers?
Anywhere on line. ecs sells them but they are over priced there for what they are. Etsy is inexpensive and good quality for like $10 for a sheet. The sheet covers different size front and rear roundels, different sized wheel roundels and steering wheel and engine bay roundel if equipped. 1 color per sheet, so if you want to do dual colors you’ll have to get 1 sheet of each color. Just search for BMW Roundel Decals and you will get tons of options and tons of color choices. I used this company.
https://www.automotiveauthorityllc.c...-roundel-decal
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Anywhere on line. ecs sells them but they are over priced there for what they are. Etsy is inexpensive and good quality for like $10 for a sheet. The sheet covers different size front and rear roundels, different sized wheel roundels and steering wheel and engine bay roundel if equipped. 1 color per sheet, so if you want to do dual colors you’ll have to get 1 sheet of each color. Just search for BMW Roundel Decals and you will get tons of options and tons of color choices. I used this company.
https://www.automotiveauthorityllc.c...-roundel-decal
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Wow! This is very reasonable considering that a clear bra or clear wrap for just the front bumper up to the windshield cost around $2000. There are some place's charging $4000 for just this. It actually looks like permanent paint! Orange is not my color but it looks great!
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Where do. You get the roundel stickers?
Anywhere on line. ecs sells them but they are over priced there for what they are. Etsy is inexpensive and good quality for like $10 for a sheet. The sheet covers different size front and rear roundels, different sized wheel roundels and steering wheel and engine bay roundel if equipped. 1 color per sheet, so if you want to do dual colors you’ll have to get 1 sheet of each color. Just search for BMW Roundel Decals and you will get tons of options and tons of color choices. I used this company.
https://www.automotiveauthorityllc.c...-roundel-decal
Thanks man. Just ordered some to match my wheels.
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Thanks! Fortunately the roundel colors are just decals and I change them up often since they are so inexpensive. Like I did on my last 50i - Keeps it different. (not sure why the uploaded muted the orange in this photo here...)
Thanks for the link, these are much cheaper than the $175 IND charge!

The black badge is perfect ... love that!

I wore my bright orange t-short today in your honor
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Love the look. Maybe its a popular style in Oregon
dv8pdx did say his previous vehicle was a 50i. I'm guessing that one for sale at Kuni was his.
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Yeah, thats my old one I traded in for this one... they didn’t want me to remove the wrap. It already sold...
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Just some info on my X5's Autoflex incase anyone is curious on the details behind liquid spray wraps (not plastidip).
Its relatively inexpensive, compared to a good vinyl wrap. I was quoted between $5k and $6k for a comparable orange, with Autoflex I was able to color match BMW's Fire Orange color and it ran me $3500 and only 2 days to do. While the concept of liquid application is the same as Plastidip, its not the same product at all. Its a 4 stage process, tack coat, 2 base coat (in my case it was avalanche grey) because I was going over black factory color - then the 2 color coats, followed by Autoflex 2k OEM style clear coat. And yes it can be cut/buffed/polished/waxed/ceramic coated and its gas spill safe. You can also use a car wash as it self heals minor swirls in the sun. Lasts 6+ years and is 100% peel-able. Even feels like real paint. Its basically removable paint instead of a vinyl wrap. Most people cant tell its not factory. Installation requires no removing of any trim, bumpers, panels, lights etc like you have to do on vinyl. I'm an orange fanatic so all my cars have been orange and it may not be everyones cup of tea but with Autoflex you can literally make any color you can think of from solids, metallics and "frozen" mattes. Its truly the next level of wrapping and after 4 cars I'm still impressed every time I pick up my car from being done. I also did my wheels and calipers in Autoflex as well since its extremely durable and heat resistant.

Thanks for the shout out Marcus!!
Looks top notch, much better than wrap 👍🏻
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