[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by apw2607

Its not from a E/E architecture point of view. How BMW chooses too package and roll this out commercially is another matter entirely.

i tested it and the headunit went through an entire reboot cycle and the highway assist + remained functional, working and was not effected by the headunit restarting.

If there was a dependency, the highway assist functionality would immediately become unavailable the moment the headunit went down.

This is the case, for example when in the instrument cluster, layout views are no longer available when the headunit isn't functional.

I'm just going by the information that was released from BMW as well as the rollout of the vehicles that have the Highway Assistant option. All that do are using MGU22 or MGU22H. I guess that could just be a coincidence. Either way, for all practical purposes the Highway Assistant is dependent upon having the High Head Unit 5 from what we have seen.

[avi8tir]

I've had it on my last 2 BMW's. It's interesting as sooo many people state they'd never own another car without it.

I literally never use it. Long road trips included.

[swainbmw]

[QUOTE=TurtleBoy;30546633]I drive on back roads all of the time and it works very well on all except the most twisty ones. Was in West Virginia, PA, and other states in the area, last month and used it all on al different road types.

Interesting a couple friends have it on there bmw And said doesn’t work on a lot of roads specially back roads glad to hear that it does but I still would never want it to drive me . I actually turn off lane Assist because I like to drive I don’t want something driving me ever But I can see where it could be beneficial for some people specially order people

[swainbmw]

Originally Posted by avi8tir

I've had it on my last 2 BMW's. It's interesting as sooo many people state they'd never own another car without it.

I literally never use it. Long road trips included

I would be the same way I don’t even use cruise control ever

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by swainbmw

Interesting a couple friends have it on there bmw And said doesn’t work on a lot of roads specially back roads glad to hear that it does but I still would never want it to drive me . I actually turn off lane Assist because I like to drive I don’t want something driving me ever But I can see where it could be beneficial for some people specially order people

As long as there is something on the road that it will enable it to determine the lanes it will work. I took this pic the other week when they were working on our road. It only has some temporary markers and driving assist was able to function.

[Jcit]

I think BMW DAP is one of the best implementations of semi-automated driving. I use it all the time on the highways. With assist+ the car is always centered on the lane and shifting lanes is a breeze. I would not buy another BMW without it now. It definitely helps on long road trips. I just wish the "pay attention" alarm was not so sensitive. It literally pings me every time I grab a sip of coffee. Sometimes I grab the steering wheel to disengage assist+ because I get tired of getting pinged by the computer.

[RetSurfer]

The Lane Assist is lightyears ahead of my 2017 Jeep GC I had, It bounced between markers, where as my 50e tracks in the middle of the lane…

[swainbmw]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

As long as there is something on the road that it will enable it to determine the lanes it will work. I took this pic the other week when they were working on our road. It only has some temporary markers and driving assist was able to function.

Interesting my 2022X5 Vermilion edition did not come with this and no massaging seats. They’re the only two options missing go figure.

[BeEmVee]

Originally Posted by Fegelein

I don't like it and never use it, don't really trust it especially in Manhattan and the surrounding metro area. Maybe on wide open country roads though....

I agree with the inability to trust the tech, and it will be obsolete in a few years due to innovation and expanded regulations. Plus it also changes a few other pieces of the car.. different steering wheel, infared camera monitoring your eyes, expensive repairs if things break or get damaged. Just a lot to worry about for a stress free experience. Anyone can force themselves to use these features and enjoy them, but the physical gain one gets from not having to move their foot as much seems low compared to all of the other liabilities. It’s a tight balancing act for each buyer.

[nZtiZia]

on open highway with cruise control active, I tend to favor Distance Control versus Drivers Assist. I prefer to maintain the vehicle within the lane as I don’t tolerate the “ping pong” effect though admittedly it’s much better on newest software (I have 03/3023.50). i find it’s too aggressive during lane changes IMO. I also feel it takes some curves a bit too fast, and it actually failed to stay in the lane during a bend in the road last weekend which took a bit of force to steer it over as it wanted to keep going straight. these incidents happened on multiple occasions, so now I’ll only use DA on straight legs of open highway. that said, I really like DA Plus during stop-and-go traffic (formerly Extended Traffic Jam Assistant)

[Car-Addicted]

Looking at a 2024 X5 xDrive40i. I have enjoyed having the BMW Active Cruise Control on past cars but I now am under the impression that this is only available with the Driving Assistance Professional Package which also requires the Parking Assistance Package. Every thing else in these two packages, I could care less about and at $3,000.00 this is a bridge too far for Active Cruise Control. Am I correct in this, the dealer was definitive that this is the only way to get Active Cruise Control?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Am I correct in this, the dealer was definitive that this is the only way to get Active Cruise Control?

Correct, Active/Adaptive cruise control is only available as part of DAP and is not a separate option.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Correct, Active/Adaptive cruise control is only available as part of DAP and is not a separate option.

Thanks for the clarification.
Generally I don't have a issues with BMW's option packaging but IMO this one is stupid. My $40,000 Toyota Tacoma has cruse distance control as standard equipment. I guess this will come down to whether I think I will get enough back on trade in value to make $3,000.00 palatable.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I guess this will come down to whether I think I will get enough back on trade in value to make $3,000.00 palatable.

You will not even come close so don't approach from that point of view. Just ask yourself if the driving assistance and extra safety features that you get are worth the money. They definitely are worth it in my opinion but you may look at it differently.

[Car-Addicted]

If I was still living in New England it would be a no brainier but in rural Pennsylvania it's a tougher call. I very seldom even use cruse control now but when I do, distance control is very important so I guess I'm down for the $3,000.00 package.

Rant # 2. Nobody drives a consistant speed these days, even on limited access highways.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

If I was still living in New England it would be a no brainier but in rural Pennsylvania it's a tougher call. I very seldom even use cruse control now but when I do, distance control is very important so I guess I'm down for the $3,000.00 package.

Rant # 2. Nobody drives a consistant speed these days, even on limited access highways.

You may use it more if you had it. I use it as close to 100% of the time that I'm driving that I can. Was just in Central PA last month and used it very successfully on all different road types.

Totally agree, it is aggravating how people constantly change speed and often. by a fairly large amount. Just not paying attention would be my guess. At least when you have Adaptive cruise it takes some the irritation away.

[cobramite]

Originally Posted by swainbmw

I would be the same way I don’t even use cruise control ever

You are my kind of guy. Never use any of that stuff.

[MassWholeBimmer]

I've driven close to a million miles in my life. (I'm not a commercial truck driver). Probably 500K of those miles were with vehicles that had cruise control. Out of those 500K, maybe I've used cruise control for 1000 miles. As I said in earlier posts, threads, I like to drive. And as someone replied, stuck in rush hour traffic in Atlanta ain't driving. Fair point. So I will say, I like to be in control. But like with everything. YMMV.

And yes, my M50i does have that fancy auto driving. I turned it on to make sure it works, I probably will do the same right before the warranty expires...

[BeEmVee]

Originally Posted by MassWholeBimmer

I've driven close to a million miles in my life. (I'm not a commercial truck driver). Probably 500K of those miles were with vehicles that had cruise control. Out of those 500K, maybe I've used cruise control for 1000 miles. As I said in earlier posts, threads, I like to drive. And as someone replied, stuck in rush hour traffic in Atlanta ain't driving. Fair point. So I will say, I like to be in control. But like with everything. YMMV.

And yes, my M50i does have that fancy auto driving. I turned it on to make sure it works, I probably will do the same right before the warranty expires...

Agree it’s unnecessary and adds complexity for repairs. Your comment about being in control is spot on!

[Nikita44]

DAP is infuriating on congested roads as people have it set to leave a large gap, and if you're stuck behind 1 or a few cars using it, it makes a bad commute even worse as people are constantly cutting in/out of the gap

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by Nikita44

DAP is infuriating on congested roads as people have it set to leave a large gap, and if you're stuck behind 1 or a few cars using it, it makes a bad commute even worse as people are constantly cutting in/out of the gap

DAP wasn't designed for those situations.

before radar, cruise control was just that... to cruise. once the congestion set in, i turned it off. even now with radar on-board and adaptive cruise control, my behavior hasn't changed. i still turn it off when there's congestion. IOW, DAP's not meant to take over during congestion; it leaves that gap because you're supposed to be cruising. its radar is there for safety while cruising for when the vehicle in front is getting too close. why it "infuriates" people is because they want it to be automatic, but remember, it's an assistant, so DAP is working as designed in those time of congestion. you're just mis-using it.

the only time for DAP to operate during congestion is stop-and-go traffic since cars are just crawling and there's no gap for someone to cut you off, which is when DAP Plus kicks in (Extended Traffic Jam Assistant). it's actually one of my favorite features

[LDT]

The highways are littered with idiots. There is always the person who passes on the right to fill the tiny gap in the go lane. Then 50 miles down the road, there they are having gained nothing.