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      05-08-2019, 06:37 PM   #45
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Thanks. Not sure 6 months will be enough given current uncertainty regarding release date. Fingers crossed.
Last I saw it won't be released in the US until fall of 2020 of course nothing official yet.
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      05-09-2019, 02:53 AM   #46
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Finally got my production date for the 45e, first week of August and the 10 weeks delivery time to Sweden...
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      05-09-2019, 03:55 AM   #47
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Was at the dealer yesterday.

In Belgium apparently the CO2 numbers are confirmed.

Depending on the config the CO2 will be between 39gr and 49gr
39gr was for the model shown (no m-pack, but with 22" wheels)

Actual range WLTP (on paper 80km) in reality would be 60km. (About 38 miles)
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      05-10-2019, 12:28 PM   #48
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The 24 kW battery was confirmed by the dealer. Does anyone has more info on charging time? If the charge capacity is limited to 3,6 kWh as in 40e it will take almost 7h to charge.
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      05-23-2019, 12:38 AM   #49
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The 24 kW battery was confirmed by the dealer. Does anyone has more info on charging time? If the charge capacity is limited to 3,6 kWh as in 40e it will take almost 7h to charge.
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I got a proposal from a Belgian company that delivers charging stations for BMW and they proposed to deliver a 11kW charging station for the 45e.
Looking into the details they state 7kW is max the car can handle in terms of loading so they would limit the kW.

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      05-23-2019, 12:39 AM   #50
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Was at the dealer yesterday.

In Belgium apparently the CO2 numbers are confirmed.

Depending on the config the CO2 will be between 39gr and 49gr
39gr was for the model shown (no m-pack, but with 22" wheels)

Actual range WLTP (on paper 80km) in reality would be 60km. (About 38 miles)
I was told that my current configuration M Sport pack + 21" M Wheels + Towing hook = 49gr CO2
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      05-23-2019, 01:22 AM   #51
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Love the idea of the hybrid if your daily mileage is less than 40 miles or you have access to a charger at work but if you do any longer mileage you are just driving around a heavier straight six petrol once the electricity has run out due to the batteries which will drink fuel more than a 40i. This is what frustrates me about the co2 and fuel economy stats on hybrids they are very misleading.
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      05-23-2019, 04:29 AM   #52
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Love the idea of the hybrid if your daily mileage is less than 40 miles or you have access to a charger at work but if you do any longer mileage you are just driving around a heavier straight six petrol once the electricity has run out due to the batteries which will drink fuel more than a 40i. This is what frustrates me about the co2 and fuel economy stats on hybrids they are very misleading.
Well, I don't think you should look at it in a 'this-or-the-other' scenario.

If you do a longer mileage, you drive in hybrid mode, so you have partial electric, partial fuel.
Give that you get some 'recharging' (very limited) during the driving, you should have lower fuel consumption than in the 40i.

the range is very interesting indeed if you can do that full electric, than there is no fuel consumption.
But if you have a higher mileage to cover daily (not in the 100's of miles per day) you can still end up with a lower consumption...
that's the whole idea of the hybrid mode...
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      05-23-2019, 02:57 PM   #53
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Love the idea of the hybrid if your daily mileage is less than 40 miles or you have access to a charger at work but if you do any longer mileage you are just driving around a heavier straight six petrol once the electricity has run out due to the batteries which will drink fuel more than a 40i. This is what frustrates me about the co2 and fuel economy stats on hybrids they are very misleading.
Well, I don't think you should look at it in a 'this-or-the-other' scenario.

If you do a longer mileage, you drive in hybrid mode, so you have partial electric, partial fuel.
Give that you get some 'recharging' (very limited) during the driving, you should have lower fuel consumption than in the 40i.

the range is very interesting indeed if you can do that full electric, than there is no fuel consumption.
But if you have a higher mileage to cover daily (not in the 100's of miles per day) you can still end up with a lower consumption...
that's the whole idea of the hybrid mode...
Good point hadn't considered that. It will be interesting to see if the hybrid gets extra spec. I have a 40i on its way and currently the price difference is wouldn't have changed my mind unless the base spec is massively better than normal 40i in the uk.
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      05-23-2019, 10:04 PM   #54
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Love the idea of the hybrid if your daily mileage is less than 40 miles or you have access to a charger at work but if you do any longer mileage you are just driving around a heavier straight six petrol once the electricity has run out due to the batteries which will drink fuel more than a 40i. This is what frustrates me about the co2 and fuel economy stats on hybrids they are very misleading.
Well, I don't think you should look at it in a 'this-or-the-other' scenario.

If you do a longer mileage, you drive in hybrid mode, so you have partial electric, partial fuel.
Give that you get some 'recharging' (very limited) during the driving, you should have lower fuel consumption than in the 40i.

the range is very interesting indeed if you can do that full electric, than there is no fuel consumption.
But if you have a higher mileage to cover daily (not in the 100's of miles per day) you can still end up with a lower consumption...
that's the whole idea of the hybrid mode...
Good point hadn't considered that. It will be interesting to see if the hybrid gets extra spec. I have a 40i on its way and currently the price difference is wouldn't have changed my mind unless the base spec is massively better than normal 40i in the uk.
It does have those drive modes:
Sport - Hybrid - Electric
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      05-24-2019, 03:40 AM   #55
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Well, I don't think you should look at it in a 'this-or-the-other' scenario.

If you do a longer mileage, you drive in hybrid mode, so you have partial electric, partial fuel.
Give that you get some 'recharging' (very limited) during the driving, you should have lower fuel consumption than in the 40i.

the range is very interesting indeed if you can do that full electric, than there is no fuel consumption.
But if you have a higher mileage to cover daily (not in the 100's of miles per day) you can still end up with a lower consumption...
that's the whole idea of the hybrid mode...
I do a lot of short rides - taking the kids to school, lots of family lives closeby, the kids play sports closeby, you name it so for me it totally makes sense. On the other hand I sometimes go to Germany for work or pleasure and have long(er) drives so hybrid eases my mind in those cases that I won't have to stop to recharge my car.

I'll have my own charger at home and I plan to plug it in whenever I get back home and actually use the capability
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      05-24-2019, 08:51 AM   #56
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I do about 50% of my daily driving on electric. On a 6000 mile trip last year in my 40e, with Zero charging, I got an overall 35 MPG with mostly 75 MPH Interstate driving. In a 2000 mile trip in my 330e, I got 45 MPG. The PHEV gets MUCH better fuel economy, even if you never charge it.
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      05-28-2019, 08:42 AM   #57
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In Belgium:
45e : 69.008,26 eur (base price excluding taxes)
40i : 58.429,75 eur (base price excluding taxes)
I see that the X5 45e is available in the configurator. But no M-pack it switches to the 40i. Was the m-pack available at the consession ?
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      05-28-2019, 09:21 AM   #58
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45e in Europe in MY2020, but not in US until MY2021?

This article is a few months old, but says that the European version of the 45e will be available as a MY2020 but will NOT be available for the US market until late calendar year 2020 as a MY 2021.

Seems to fit with why the european members of this forum have the ability to order the 45e, while it has NOT shown up on any order guides for the US market.

Hope this article is wrong on the US market timing. Would like to stay in an X5, would like to have the 30-50mi all-electric range, as well as the gas tank for road trips.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...-drive-review/
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      05-28-2019, 11:25 AM   #59
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Seems to fit with why the european members of this forum have the ability to order the 45e
We were able to pre order the 45e in belgium as of march. But they just now started to make these configurations "final".

This is when they informed us the tartufo is no longer avaiable, the CO2 emissions are 39gr in base trim with 19" wheels in NEDC 2.0
They also informed me WLTP should be 29gr, which seems very odd to me.

Any one else got additional info?

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      05-28-2019, 01:12 PM   #60
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We were able to pre order the 45e in belgium as of march. But they just now started to make these configurations "final".

This is when they informed us the tartufo is no longer avaiable, the CO2 emissions are 39gr in base trim with 19" wheels in NEDC 2.0
They also informed me WLTP should be 29gr, which seems very odd to me.

Any one else got additional info?

39gr. is in WLTP not NEDC.
max is 49gr.
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      05-28-2019, 02:40 PM   #61
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The car I ordered m-sport 21” wheels WLTP 33 gr NEDC2 41 gr
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      05-29-2019, 03:12 AM   #62
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The car I ordered m-sport 21” wheels WLTP 33 gr NEDC2 41 gr
Same info I got, WLTP lower than NEDC 2.0
Non M-sport 19" is 29 and 39 respectively

Good news for the company car owners in our country
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Can anyone advise the battery capacity? That will be the most accurate indicator of real world range as we can compare it with the current 40e battery capacity of 9.6 KWH to extrapolate from the 40e real world range of 14-15 mi. None of the released data I have seen has given the new battery capacity.

For USA buyers: I understand that the US introduction is delayed so as to get California SULEV certification enabling use of the car pool lanes. It could also be a battery supply problem with BMW wanting to limit the 45e sales until supply catches up with demand. With the reported 45e battery-only range, this could be a big seller. I have declined to take the Audi e-Tron I had reserved because of the reported range of the 45e. Cost and weight of the two vehicles is about the same, with the 45e having much more performance and no range anxiety. A 35 mile real world electric range will satisfy 100% of my daily needs and I still have the ICE for long trips.
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CNet article above states battery is 24 kw

Not sure if the US model will have the same battery capacity as the European version, but, that article stated that the European battery is 24kw. So 2.5x the size of the 9.6kw battery in the 745e
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That's an absolutely HUGE PHEV battery, but it's consistent with reports of an EPA range of 35+ miles, 2.5 X 14 mi. I'd love it if true. Full $7500 tax credit. But, that's too big for a solely under-trunk location, as in the current 40e. They'd have to add under-seat, as well, leaving over the axle for a slightly smaller fuel tank. This is a much better proposition than any of the current crop of EV's, IMHO.
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I see that the X5 45e is available in the configurator. But no M-pack it switches to the 40i. Was the m-pack available at the consession ?
The M-pack is available for 45e and stays under 50gr CO2

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