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The wing in question, the one that was on the car in Brazil was not tested.
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Innocent until proven guilty, if you can prove mercedes is cheating I will call them out on it.
Otherwise if you hate without proof, then you imply you also hate max and redbull for cheating with their flexi wing which was caught and they had to change it, and if you also don't care about facts and only speculate max cheated by heating the tires higher than normal to get a higher pressure reading than what it was supposed to be - i.e. cheating with tire pressures. That caused the blow out. Since you don't care about facts then that's what we have. Proof?
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This is the link for all the top speed charts in quali, sprint quali, and the race:
https://maxf1.net/en/2021-brazilian-...eed-advantage/ - Lewis was never the fastest one, near the top but never the fastest one. - Max was always near the bottom of the top speeds. [IMG] Qualifying: Sprint qualifying: - Lewis was fastest at the speed trap and intermediate 1 locations. At the finish line norris was the fastest, and at intermediate 2 leclerc was the fastest. - Max again near the bottom. During the race: Lewis was never the fastest. AT the espeed trap sainz was the fastest, at the finish line gasly was the fastest, at the intermediate 1 postition gasly was the fastest, and at intermediate 2 perez was the fastest. - max was at the bottom again. Now before we go bezerk on the data, we need to note a few things: sprint quali and the race is not fair to max because he was leading most of the time so no drs or slip stream. So qualifying is more accurate as you have drs on tap. However this completely debunks the myth that lewis had some kind if "jet mode" speed. This simply was not true. What we also notice is max is consistently at the bottom in terms of slow speed, so this is a max and redbull problem - even yuki and pierre were faster than max so it's not really honda either... So it turns out you guys are once again projecting, you say we only listen to toto (who you say is a lair) for data - well looks like you are listening to the misleading and lying horner who exaggerates mercedes' and their speed. Again I am fact checking you guys, even though you say you have alot of "knowledge" in this sport you know what is right and what is wrong. Well again I am proving you wrong with data to support it.
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So Rick and Mpower - where is this mercedes jet speed you are talking about? Or are you guys making stuff up again? Likely you are just listening to horner lie and making stuff up because I see no data on your end.
In reality the speed delta is because redbull is slow not because mercedes is abnormally fast.
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Smart? I never said it was smart. But I highly doubt VER would turn in at that speed not believing he was clear. Could it cost him a WDC? Thinking it already has along with other mishaps. I also don't think the incident in Brazil is a fair comparison. Get serious? I am serious and have my own opinion. Most everyone here knows I use HAM when I'm serious and nick names when I'm just goofing or pissed off Anyway, it's Thanksgiving here in the US...Everybody enjoy and be safe!!! Lastly, Please, DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE UBER or LYFT is a lot cheaper!!!!!! |
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On the other hand, MB's front wing is way more Flexi than others as seen from wing cam. But the FIA is letting it slide and telling other teams to catch up. Double standard to me. I don't believe tests and regulations should be changed mid-season. If a car passes all tests at the beginning of the season it should be fair ALL season IMHO. I hold the same opinion for MB's rear wing which seems to be the current controversy. |
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RB did have a small problem with their drs activation arm being too stiff making the moveable wing flap at times to vibratate forcing the team to revert to an earlier wing for more stability. This has now been modified for the latest wing to work optimally.
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It's all very well for Masi to stand up for the marshall waving a yellow erroneously inside the barrier but Horner was spot on speaking up as Gasly continued to drive as not to impede other cars so the warning was unjustified. Max and BOT should never have received grid penalties, Masi simply overreacted unnecessarilly.
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So the Mercedes may not be the fastest on track but it certainly up there hence why you see it being able to close the gap on nearly every car on the field. Then nothing else on the field holds a candle to the w12 in terms of downforce generation (redbull excluded) so it can out brake and out corner the rest of the field hence why overtaking was so easy looking (if you're not Bottas). So that's the logical explanation based on given facts in formula 1. Next the figures are from the F1 taken radar traps, the same figures you see during the races in the bottom corner of the screen. So they've been taken via radar or lidar, which is much more accurate than what you see because you're insanely biased against Mercedes and so far you've only attributed everything to top speed and neglected every other factor. Again all you've provided was "I saw this", I "I saw that" etc etc but no data. You literally have nothing to stand on, except your unnatural hate towards Mercedes in this debate.
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Highlight the portions that is "gobbledegook" and explain why with science and facts. If you can't then you're full of yourself.
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How do I hate RB? Because I am defending mercedes against baseless accusations? I would defend any team even RB if accusations are baseless, but you guys literally only bully mercedes so they are the only ones who need defending.
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https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-...d-bull-claims/
This one goes into a detailed analysis on the speed delta between mercedes and redbull, and it is nowhere near the "unraceable" 20kph+ difference that horner says it is.
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And debunked again, if you were in a real debate that would have been the end of it the moment you started changing the subject and unable to counter the data. Also note, I have not even made an attempt to pull redbull down, I am debunking your myths about mercedes and used relational comparisons to redbull.
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