[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

As has been mentioned before, this discussion without precision is pretty useless. I am sure TurtleBoy will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we each need to mention the following specific attributes when asking or commenting on these related issues:

- N/AB: cross traffic notifications vs auto-braking
- F/R: front vs rear
- SPD: speed range of parking/slow, city/medium, highway/fast
- DIST: distance to trigger object
- MODE: current wide angle camera selection mode of: none, front, rear
- EQUIP: car equipment
- GEO: world region

Without all of above, every related comment seems like jibber jabber.

Exactly. Without specifics we might as well be discussing the upcoming College Football season since it would be just as useful and perhaps less confusing. Then again it wouldn't make all of our discussions here on this and other topics nearly as interesting/frustrating/etc.

[sdfischer]

For the first time ever (in a fairly close call backing situation) saw a subtle blurry red blotch at the bottom corner of the screen. Hardly attention getting! The setting states "visual and acoustic". There was no sound. That would certainly help! Anyone getting "acoustic"??

[russelldav]

Originally Posted by sdfischer

For the first time ever (in a fairly close call backing situation) saw a subtle blurry red blotch at the bottom corner of the screen. Hardly attention getting! The setting states "visual and acoustic". There was no sound. That would certainly help! Anyone getting "acoustic"??

Yes it's a higher pitch gong than the PDC and I have missed it as it's not very loud or different to the usual noises.

[sdfischer]

Originally Posted by russelldav

Yes it's a higher pitch gong than the PDC and I have missed it as it's not very loud or different to the usual noises.

Thanks! I'll continue to poke at it!

[russelldav]

Originally Posted by sdfischer

Thanks! I'll continue to poke at it!

It would be nice to have something very distinctive a bit like a aircraft "pull up" attention getter.

Maybe...

"CROSS TRAFFIC"

or

"OH SH*T"

[natahoa]

Mine worked yesterday for the first time. You must actually be moving. If you are sitting still waiting, it won’t alert. I was pulling out of a driveway with cars approaching in both directions. I saw them but was rolling slowly when the alert fired.

[Therealmatzaman]

Just returned from my first service, they upgraded me to 7.2019.39 and while I have Cross traffic checked, it says there’s an alert that its somehow disabled.

[X54TH]

Originally Posted by Marty in Bgm

So you bought the luggage compartment package, eh? Can you comment on its pros and cons? Have you ever had something heavy sitting on the little door when you pushed the button to raise the cover out from under the floor? Just wondering how robust the whole thing is.

No issues if something blocks it. I like the auto feature when the truck is open, it slides back and when you close the truck it comes back across concealing the cargo area. It's great when you have some large unexpected purchases (Costco) and with a press of a button the cover is gone. This options offers a lot of convenience.

[nosnoop]

Originally Posted by X54TH

No issues if something blocks it. I like the auto feature when the truck is open, it slides back and when you close the truck it comes back across concealing the cargo area. It's great when you have some large unexpected purchases (Costco) and with a press of a button the cover is gone. This options offers a lot of convenience.

Yeah, it's working well. We really like it.
And it's also a great feature to amaze your friends.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by nosnoop

Yeah, it's working well. We really like it.
And it's also a great feature to amaze your friends.

Last question on the auto cargo cover pkg since we're hijacking this thread topic.. .. . if you have a heavy box on top of the cargo floor door and someone presses the button to raise the cover from under the floor without realizing there's a heavy box on top of the cargo floor door, what happens?
- Will the cover sense it cannot open and simply stop?
- Does it give you some sort of error msg like flashing the button light?
- Will it continue to try till the cargo floor door motor burns up?
- Do you hear any sort of clicking or buzzing that would indicate its still trying to open the door but can't?
- Etc

.

[nosnoop]

Originally Posted by Marty in Bgm

if you have a heavy box on top of the cargo floor door and someone presses the button to raise the cover from under the floor without realizing there's a heavy box on top of the cargo floor door, what happens?

According to the manual:
"Items in the range of movement are detected.
The cargo cover stops automatically to prevent damage."

For the soft cover, it would disengage from the mount if there are obstacles when closing. You need to manually close the cover until it engages back in the mounting to restore function.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by nosnoop

According to the manual:
"Items in the range of movement are detected.
The cargo cover stops automatically to prevent damage."

For the soft cover, it would disengage from the mount if there are obstacles when closing. You need to manually close the cover until it engages back in the mounting to restore function.

Right, I read that in the manual but my thoughts were that it all referenced the soft cover and not the cargo cover door. In fact someone posted a while back and said their soft cover had become unattached and no longer moved. They did what the manual said and it worked.

I can't imagine anyone would design a feature like this without some sort of safety cutoff for the cargo floor door too but was looking for verification. If you ever become brave enough to try, let me know

[alexder]

It seems last the last several posts are off topic.
Therealmatzaman: so your rear cross traffic is not working, and the dealer could not fix it?

[sdfischer]

Service appt Wednesday. Will report.

[Therealmatzaman]

They scheduled my follow up for this Friday. Which kinda sucks bc if they didn’t fix it I prob have to wait another week to complain.

[sdfischer]

Originally Posted by sdfischer

Service appt Wednesday. Will report.

Service concludes that they are working. My wife insists we sell the two week old car (seriously!) because the whole idea was safety in the first place. I'm not confident that this would prevent at least a near collision and I don't want to continue to scare my neighbors as I back into them so I guess we will leave the BMW family. Germany I hope you are listening!!!!!!

[nosnoop]

Originally Posted by sdfischer

Service concludes that they are working. My wife insists we sell the two week old car (seriously!) because the whole idea was safety in the first place. I'm not confident that this would prevent at least a near collision and I don't want to continue to scare my neighbors as I back into them so I guess we will leave the BMW family. Germany I hope you are listening!!!!!!

Have you tried using the Panaroma camera view?
I think that's the best while backing up - real time visual is much better and safer than relying on any safety alert system. I use it every time, even though my cross traffic alert is working.

It shows everything at the back, 180 view, and the cross traffic alert would actually show as flashing red border on the side of the incoming traffic.

[sdfischer]

Originally Posted by nosnoop

Have you tried using the Panaroma camera view?
I think that's the best while backing up - real time visual is much better and safer than relying on any safety alert system. I use it every time, even though my cross traffic alert is working.

It shows everything at the back, 180 view, and the cross traffic alert would actually show as flashing red border on the side of the incoming traffic.

Thanks. Sounds like a good substitute until they fix it but I think Panorama is only available for front?? My wife just reminded me that on one X5 we tested (but did not buy) the alert worked fine. So frustrating.

[nosnoop]

Originally Posted by sdfischer

Thanks. Sounds like a good substitute until they fix it but I think Panorama is only available for front??

It's available both front and rear; it will change according to your gear selection.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by nosnoop

It's available both front and rear; it will change according to your gear selection.

Ha ha ha, LOL, that's a good one. Changing based on a gear selection would be logical, BMW will have none of that kind of nonsense. They'll change when they bloody well feel like it and you'll like it.

Sarcasm aside, you might notice that I have big beef with X5 idiotic/defective design camera handling "algorithms" and bugs.

[nosnoop]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

Ha ha ha, LOL, that's a good one. Changing based on a gear selection would be logical, BMW will have none of that kind of nonsense. They'll change when they bloody well feel like it and you'll like it.
Sarcasm aside, you might notice that I have big beef with X5 idiotic/defective design camera handling "algorithms" and bugs.

In that case, you should be happy to know that there is no such bug for the panaroma view - it will always display the correct camera.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by nosnoop

In that case, you should be happy to know that there is no such bug for the panaroma view - it will always display the correct camera.

Please demonstrate what you mean. A clear precise example of the system reliably, predictably and repeatably behaving as you describe. For example, showing the video of the correct camera being reliably switched on and front to back with gear shift. I will then attempt to reproduce and either demonstrate a set of bugs for your specific use case or eat crow.

Anything else is a waste of time and breath as I've documented on video multiple idiotic camera switching/handling bugs elsewhere on the forum (and I haven't even posted all of them), you can search for them.