[LDT]

For those of you M60i drivers I found the C/D review of the '24 Cayenne S to be interesting particularly the specs and most notably the $134k price of the tested car. I'm still very happy that I went with the M60i. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

Cayenne S Specifications

2024 Porsche Cayenne S Coupe
Vehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 4-door hatchback

PRICE
Base/As Tested: $103,750/$133,720
Options: Black/Bordeaux red leather seat and interior trim, $4180; Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, $3590; Sport exhaust system with dark bronze tailpipes), $3220; 22-inch SportDesign Wheels, $3180; Arctic Grey paint, $3150; adaptive air suspension, $2390; 18-way adaptive front sport seats with memory, $1710; surround view with active parking, $1620; Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus, $1500; adaptive cruise control, $1420; rear axle steering, $1280; Exclusive Design taillights, $1140; ultra-high performance tires; $630; front and rear heated seats, $530; ambient lightning, $430

ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 244 in3, 3996 cm3
Power: 468 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 442 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm

TRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic

CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 16.1-in vented disc/14.1-in vented disc
Pirelli P Zero Corsa PZC4
F: 285/40R-22 (110Y) Extra Load NC0
R: 315/35R-22 (111Y) Extra Load NC0

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 114.0 in
Length: 194.1 in
Width: 78.6 in
Height: 66.1 in
Curb Weight: 5108 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.9 sec
100 mph: 10.0 sec
1/4-Mile: 12.4 sec @ 111 mph
130 mph: 18.4 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 5.0 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.8 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed (mfr claim): 169 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 152 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 310 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.03 g

C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 17 mpg

EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 17/15/21 mpg

C/D TESTING EXPLAINED

[matowi]

And what did they conclude in the test?

[LDT]

Originally Posted by matowi

And what did they conclude in the test?

Read it here https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

[grigiogirl]

Interesting to see this as I was cross-shopping the cayenne s with the X5 M60i. I have to admit the exhaust on those Porsche V8’s sounds sooo damn good. Really wish the M60i’s sounded more like it. However, I’m happy I went with the BMW.

[TurtleBoy]

"Dedicated physical climate controls and hand-adjustable HVAC vents are two welcome changes. The prominent central touchscreen is largely the home of the infotainment system, with only lesser-used vehicle settings buried within."

Perhaps in response to the Euro NCAP requirements although I would image the design was baked by the time those came out.

[matowi]

Originally Posted by LDT

Read it here https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

Those highs…

Quote: “HIGHS: V-8 sound and fury,…”

I’m picking up my M60i tomorrow and am trying to keep my mind positive about the sound stage…

[LDT]

Originally Posted by matowi

Those highs…

Quote: “HIGHS: V-8 sound and fury,…”

I’m picking up my M60i tomorrow and am trying to keep my mind positive about the sound stage…

Congrats. Look forward to some photos.
That exhaust note (lack of) is the only thing I dislike about the M60i. You get a nice growl on a cold start but that's it. I've mostly gotten over it and try to focus on the car's superb performance.

[matowi]

Oh, I’m planning to share some snaps and maybe a clip with the sound

Can’t wait 🫣

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by matowi

Oh, I’m planning to share some snaps and maybe a clip with the sound

A silent movie.

[aaaaaaaaaz]

Originally Posted by LDT

For those of you M60i drivers I found the C/D review of the '24 Cayenne S to be interesting particularly the specs and most notably the $134k price of the tested car. I'm still very happy that I went with the M60i. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

Cayenne S Specifications

2024 Porsche Cayenne S Coupe
Vehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 4-door hatchback

PRICE
Base/As Tested: $103,750/$133,720
Options: Black/Bordeaux red leather seat and interior trim, $4180; Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, $3590; Sport exhaust system with dark bronze tailpipes), $3220; 22-inch SportDesign Wheels, $3180; Arctic Grey paint, $3150; adaptive air suspension, $2390; 18-way adaptive front sport seats with memory, $1710; surround view with active parking, $1620; Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus, $1500; adaptive cruise control, $1420; rear axle steering, $1280; Exclusive Design taillights, $1140; ultra-high performance tires; $630; front and rear heated seats, $530; ambient lightning, $430

ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 244 in3, 3996 cm3
Power: 468 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 442 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm

TRANSMISSION
8-speed [...]

Skid pad roadhoading seems to be of another league though. Price is way too high, while power not so

[rainmn60]

I owed a 2011 Cayenne S. It was a great, solid, sporty and powerful vehicle until it wasn’t. I had major drivetrain issues that required me to get rid of it. The story was that the drivetrain was not configured properly for the engine size and that the oil in the transfer case broke down causing the parts to grind. Eventually Porsche owned up to it but when I owned it they didn’t. They said it was a “out out warranty” wear and tear repair. The car had less than 60,000 miles on it. I will never go back for the reason of their lack of support to the issue. In my experience, BMW stands behind their vehicles.

[matowi]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

A silent movie.

I’ll do the subtitles…

Vroom vroooooooommmmmm VVVVRRRROOOOOOOMMMM

too bad, though. In the good old days of nickelodeons, there used to be orchestras providing live music to accompany the silent movies. I fear there’ll be no orchestra in this case

[LDT]

Originally Posted by aaaaaaaaaz

Skid pad roadhoading seems to be of another league though. Price is way too high, while power not so

Compared to M60i.......Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.86 g

[mmm50i]

Originally Posted by LDT

Compared to M60i.......Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.86 g

The comparison isn't exactly apples to apples though, since the Cayenne S Coupe is running Pirelli PZC4 tires. These tires would be similar to the Michelin PS4S.

Even with better tires, the M60i won't be able to get a similar number though. The X5 is massive, I think a couple of inches taller than the Cayenne Coupe

[sharkymcpeterson]

You could get an X5M comp for what a cayenne s goes for. Not in ten thousand lifetimes would I choose an S over an X5M comp.

[Eric500]

relatively modestly optioned M60i for me is ~$13K less than a cayenne S.

To me, the M60i as a sort of M is still more special. the cayenne is stylistically boring to me esp at >$100k it has no road presence.

[crabman]

Originally Posted by sharkymcpeterson

You could get an X5M comp for what a cayenne s goes for. Not in ten thousand lifetimes would I choose an S over an X5M comp.

I did my due diligence with the Cayenne S (144k), 60i (110k), and the 132k X5M.

I actually think the Cayenne is maybe a little better car than the 60i, but just a hair, primarily because you get better driving feel and more options to make it your own. No way it's worth 34k more than the 60i as I configure them. I'd pay a little more, but not much. Looking at it the other way, at 110k a Cayenne is massively outgunned in the features department against what is a completely loaded 60i. No chance I buy there either.

Alternatively, you could get a loaded X5M with enough left over to throw in the stupidly overpriced M performance exhaust and your still under that 144k mark.

Wasn't hard for me to figure out which way I wanted to go.

[LDT]

Yes the Cayenne S might be a slightly better car but not $20k better. Much of the like/dislike for a particular vehicle is subjective. The S doesn’t have the presence of the M60i styling wise IMO but the Pcar afficenados will say differently. And most of us will never test it's limits on a 300’ diameter skidpad so what does it matter. At the $100k++ price point, value plays a lesser role but in this class of performance SUVs it’s hard to beat the total package and value of the BMW X5 M60i. Much like the Corvette is the best overall performance and value play amongst sports cars. BTW, I’ve has two Cayennes, one base and one S.

[BSfmAZ]

Originally Posted by grigiogirl

Interesting to see this as I was cross-shopping the cayenne s with the X5 M60i. I have to admit the exhaust on those Porsche V8’s sounds sooo damn good. Really wish the M60i’s sounded more like it. However, I’m happy I went with the BMW.

Exactly the same, shopped the cayenne, actually had a deposit down, agree the sound is much, much better, the dash screen(s) were a turn off, 3 year maint. adds another $4k vs free. Porsche does still have a "button" for start/stop! Was a MB driver but the gle 63 clocked in at $157k and their quality has been on the decline for years. I happily went back to bmw ('23 z4 for her, '24 m60i for him). Like u very happy with the choice!

[BMPHIL]

Regarding the M60i exhaust sound (or lack of), I ordered acoustic glass on my car to protect me from outside sounds and I'm glad it does. I had a GLC43 when they first became available and there was a constant "buzz" noise in the cabin and it was shall we say irritating.

[LDT]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

Regarding the M60i exhaust sound (or lack of), I ordered acoustic glass on my car to protect me from outside sounds and I'm glad it does. I had a GLC43 when they first became available and there was a constant "buzz" noise in the cabin and it was shall we say irritating.

So you can order acoustic glass inthe UK! It’s aggravating that one cannot order it in the US.

[formerE36M3/4/5]

I’ve been a Porsche owner for over 20 years, (2) Cayenne’s, a 2006 S and a 2010 GTS, great vehicles. Also owned (2) Macans, a 2015 S and a 2018 GTS. I really do miss the steering feedback/feel of the Porsches (and also the exhaust sound) but the prices and maintenance costs have just gotten out of hand, esp when I can get a healthy discount (and $4k military off top) on the BMW that I can’t get on the Porsche. It’s nice to have multiple BMW dealers w/in 100 miles so there’s at least a little competition. I wouldn’t kick a Cayenne out of the garage but for now I’ll live with the X5. The 997 Cab will continue to give me my P car fix.