[Xfive]

Here are a few clips of the exhaust in action.

Exhaust with modes:

Idle:

Startup:

[BimmerVinyl]

Sounds like there's more pops and bangs in Sport plus while revving. Otherwise, sounds fairly similar to the outgoing 50i (as we all expected). Thanks for sharing!

[AndroidRobot]

sounds identical to the normal 50i which is a good thing

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

sounds identical to the normal 50i which is a good thing

X2. Yea, sounds identical to me. I honestly wouldn’t change it if I could.

As a reference.

[BMWBear]

It’s impossible to determine if they sound the same through videos but if I had bought the 50i I would not have been a happy camper after BMW announced the rather large HP difference.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by BYEIL

It’s impossible to determine if they sound the same through videos but if I had bought the 50i I would not have been a happy camper after BMW announced the rather large HP difference.

67hp isn’t a large HP gain in a 5000lbs+ SUV. It’s already a 4 second SUV so 3.8 isn’t gonna change anyone’s view of performance. Now 600hp would be a increase to make you think if a upgrade is worth it. No one is gonna confuse either M-Sport or M50i as a “full M car”. They are both just about identical performance packages and that’s not a negative if you want to actually drive your SUV in mixed weather.

[BMWBear]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

67hp isn’t a large HP gain in a 5000lbs+ SUV. It’s already a 4 second SUV so 3.8 isn’t gonna change anyone’s view of performance. Now 600hp would be a increase to make you think if a upgrade is worth it. No one is gonna confuse either M-Sport or M50i as a “full M car”. They are both just about identical performance packages and that’s not a negative if you want to actually drive your SUV in mixed weather.

When it comes to hp/torque every number above the next guy counts. If this was a competitor vehicle 67hp would be a HUGE difference that everyone would be talking about.

I’m just saying that if I was guy that that likes to have the best of the best and the “best” is replaced with better so shortly after my purchase then I wouldn’t be happy. No matter how you put it the standard 50i has dropped to #2 in just a year.

[dbjunction]

I think it 50i vs M50i might have been more palatable if there was a big price delta (like is expected to be the case with X5M). Here, if you had gone with M Sport package of 50i (which most, if not all, did), then the price difference is negligible.

[BimmerVinyl]

Originally Posted by BYEIL

When it comes to hp/torque every number above the next guy counts. If this was a competitor vehicle 67hp would be a HUGE difference that everyone would be talking about.

I’m just saying that if I was guy that that likes to have the best of the best and the “best” is replaced with better so shortly after my purchase then I wouldn’t be happy. No matter how you put it the standard 50i has dropped to #2 in just a year.

Yes, but my 50i has roof rails and Tartufo which is something 2020 M50is are clearly lacking (as of now). JB4 with downpipes, and I'm already faster then an M50i. At the end of the day, who really cares?

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by JackB316

Yes, but my 50i has roof rails and Tartufo which is something 2020 M50is are clearly lacking (as of now). JB4 with downpipes, and I'm already faster then an M50i. At the end of the day, who really cares?

No one does as they are both V8TT 50i twins separated by a year. No one is believing the M50i is any more a “M car” than the M-Sport is. Neither are full “M cars” so any HP bragging rights mean very little other than they both have a big V8TT and go like stink as a luxury SUV. That should be good enough and what I hope the buyer was looking for. Anyone looking for HP bragging rights will purposely seek out a real full M division car.

[BimmerVinyl]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

No one does as they are both V8TT 50i twins separated by a year. No one is believing the M50i is any more a “M car” than the M-Sport is. Neither are full “M cars” so any HP bragging rights mean very little other than they both have a big V8TT and go like stink as a luxury SUV. That should be good enough and what I hope the buyer was looking for. Anyone looking for HP bragging rights will purposely seek out a real full M division car.

Exactly. I'll happily wait for the release of the X5M before rushing to trade in my 50i.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by JackB316

Exactly. I'll happily wait for the release of the X5M before rushing to trade in my 50i.

That would be my move except I can’t have performance tires/wheels on my SUV for mix weather driving and long distant traveling. Ride height will be a X5M issue as well and radiators will be hanging low like all the other M cars. So for where the X5 fits into my fleet, the 50i M-Sport will be as far as I can push a performance luxury SUV. I’ll have to settle for a 4 second luxury SUV. This may be the very definition of a “first world problem”.

[BMWBear]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

No one does as they are both V8TT 50i twins separated by a year. No one is believing the M50i is any more a “M car” than the M-Sport is. Neither are full “M cars” so any HP bragging rights mean very little other than they both have a big V8TT and go like stink as a luxury SUV. That should be good enough and what I hope the buyer was looking for. Anyone looking for HP bragging rights will purposely seek out a real full M division car.

The thing is very few will know it’s not a “true” M car even though it’s just as fast if not faster then the previous gen X5M. Non enthusiasts will see it as top of the line. Having your top of the line drop to number two has got to aggravate some people. I feel sorry for them. That’s all.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by BYEIL

The thing is very few will know it’s not a “true” M car even though it’s just as far if not faster then the previous gen X5M. Non enthusiasts will see it as top of the line. Having you top of the line drop to number two has got to aggravate some people. I feel sorry for them. That’s all.

This is why my plate is what it is. It answers a lot of questions while owning the left lane.

[BMWBear]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

This is why my plate is what it is. It answers a lot of questions while owning the left lane.

I don’t see how that’s relevant to the 50i being bumped to number 2?

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by BYEIL

I don’t see how that’s relevant to the 50i being bumped to number 2?

It’s a explanation how a SUV was going so fast in the left lane.
I think you overestimating the relevance of ranking or elevating one model of the same SUV over another. The 50i M-Sport owners here are not devastated or concerned the 2020 V8 got a power bump. We all knew it was coming when we ordered our 50i M-Sport at release.

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by BYEIL

I don't see how that's relevant to the 50i being bumped to number 2?

The one upsmandship in the G05 forum is significantly less than you'll find compared to other forums. Let's not start the trend.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Auricom

The one upsmandship in the G05 forum is significantly less than you'll find compared to other forums. Let's not start the trend.

Agree.
I don’t think there has ever been any chest beating on the G05. We all picked the best X5 for our needs. This forum has been ego free and knowledge based.

[Ilyam5]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

Agree.
I don’t think there has ever been any chest beating on the G05. We all picked the best X5 for our needs. This forum has been ego free and knowledge based.

That is true.. but being the fact based board we should give credit where credit is due.

T3 engine upgrade is pretty exiting - it is not just 60 Hp boost. It is a complete redesign.

the more powerful N63B44T3 adds high-pressure 5,000 PSI fuel injection, enlarged twin-scroll turbochargers, a redeveloped intake manifold and an additional upstream radiator, compared to less powerful the N63B44M3

"M" in this case refers to "medium output" for the engine.
The "T" is the "top" output class. There is quite a few component differences between the two, including visually, which will make ordering parts a little confusing. Much of the M3 parts are carried over from the O2 design while the T3 has a broad mix of parts from various engines.

- The intercoolers now have a crossover tube between them (same as on F90 M5) that helps balance the pressure between both cylinder banks. Balancing the pressure avoids peaks and can provide a more stable air mass to set engine tuning.
- An HFM intake sensor is no longer used on either. Air mass is now calculated instead of measured via a series of sensors and tables (primarily Valvetronic position, intake pressure, and intake temperature) and further corrected by the oxygen sensors.
- The ignition coils on the N63M3 are the pencil type carried over from the N63O2. The T3 version gets a newer design similar to the latest B-series modular engines and ignition voltage is 50% higher. The T3 also gets different spark plugs.
- The N63M3 version shares its turbo design with the N63O2 but now includes an overboost feature that allows an extra 34 horsepower for brief periods and only in Launch Mode.
- The T3 turbos are different with diverter valves added back in (they were deleted with the introduction of Valvetronic on N63B44O1).



I am pretty excited about the new engine and the new chassis tuning. maybe not enough to trade my car in immediately but definitely enough to make it my next lease.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by Ilyam5

I am pretty excited about the new engine and the new chassis tuning. maybe not enough to trade my car in immediately but definitely enough to make it my next lease.

As so am I. I'm currently considering selling my '18 X5M for a '20 M50i depending if the incentives improve within the coming months. I knew the X5M would be overkill for the wifey, and I think the M50i would be a nice compromise for us.

[G050i]

Originally Posted by JackB316

Yes, but my 50i has roof rails and Tartufo which is something 2020 M50is are clearly lacking (as of now). JB4 with downpipes, and I'm already faster then an M50i. At the end of the day, who really cares?

Which downpipes JackB?

[BimmerVinyl]

Originally Posted by G050i

Which downpipes JackB?

https://www.armmotorsports.com/BMW-G30-
M550i-N63R-Downpipes-p/n63rdp.htm

They're on their way, hopefully they fit nicely