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      05-18-2023, 11:32 AM   #1
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Post Your Highest 45e Starting eRange thus far!

I was welcomed to 39 eMiles of range today! My second runner up eRange was 36 miles which was registered back in April.

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4) Temp at time of post" 64* F

Edit: Well, by the time I headed out to get some lunch,...my eRange was showing 40 Miles!,....@ 74*/F per in-dash temp!
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      05-18-2023, 11:35 AM   #2
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Took this just this morning and clocked in at 44mi when I took it off the charger.

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doesn't it matter if your AC is on/off? I have noticed that if I turn off the AC, the range jumps up.
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doesn't it matter if your AC is on/off? I have noticed that if I turn off the AC, the range jumps up.
There are varying factors and having your HVAC on or off would contribute to that. As well as driving style, speed, outside temps, and the weight load you’re carrying. I use my AC pretty frequently though.
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This is the moment you start the car from fully charge before driving. It has everything to do with your last trip, but current trip. If you came home by driving 20 miles down hill back last night, the range will be very high when fully charge. It does NOT mean your current trip will do 44 miles.
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This is the moment you start the car from fully charge before driving. It has everything to do with your last trip, but current trip. If you came home by driving 20 miles down hill back last night, the range will be very high when fully charge. It does NOT mean your current trip will do 44 miles.
This! The number is a party trick. A far better gauge of battery capacity is the actual battery gauge (who could have guessed???) just to the right of the number. BMW should have at least put markings on it in quarter "tank" increments.

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This is the moment you start the car from fully charge before driving. It has everything to do with your last trip, but current trip. If you came home by driving 20 miles down hill back last night, the range will be very high when fully charge. It does NOT mean your current trip will do 44 miles.
That's one way of look'n at it! However, it should also mean that if the driver was to operate the vehicle under previous load on the electric motor,...weight in vehicle,...similar weather, use of A/C, and similar grades of roads last traveled, then therefore it should yield the eMiles displayed,...or at least very close! Right?
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This is the moment you start the car from fully charge before driving. It has everything to do with your last trip, but current trip. If you came home by driving 20 miles down hill back last night, the range will be very high when fully charge. It does NOT mean your current trip will do 44 miles.
very true! but it can also work the ‘other way’. a couple times, I actually drove longer than the indicated range
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The drive before my last charge was partly on stop and go city streets, then, primarily on divided highways. Temp was in the 60's which probably tempered the need for heat or cooling as it was sunny...after recharging, mine read 42-miles...one of the higher readings I've seen. Next trips will all be in the city, so it will likely go back to low 30's.
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very true! but it can also work the ‘other way’. a couple times, I actually drove longer than the indicated range
Yes, definitely. Just 2 weeks ago, I was testing my 45e for EV acceleration, so I keep pushing paddle to the max before kick down. I got 18 miles on that charge. When I charge the battery back, it shows 15 miles. I was like WTF is going on, almost call BMW. But then actual daily driving, we are back to 30s.
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Not sure if I would go by the starting range. Fully charge it and drive it around in Individual Electric until you run out of juice.

Then post that number.
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The estimate is based on the last 18-miles of use which assumes your next miles will be exactly the same. That doesn't happen very often. Unless you realize that, expecting it to represent your future reality is futile. Once you realize that, you can make your own estimate that may be closer to reality based on how you drove (the only thing the vehicle knows), and how you plan those future miles will be. Keep in mind that it's a rolling average, so as you drive a mile, the oldest one in the estimate gets thrown away from the calculation. So, yes, the estimated range to empty can seem really weird...like staying at the same value for more than a few miles, or increase, or radically drop faster than the distance you've traveled.
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For those if you who care about this, what difference does it make if you go 27 or 35 miles on battery power? Don't you just keep going after that with no discernable difference?

Where we live the first half mile from the house gains about 70ft, then the next 5.5 miles loses about 500ft. Whatever the number is at the start, it'll usually be 6-7 greater by the time you've traveled those six miles. Pure fiction. Power was consumed during that drive, not stored.

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On the forum for my EV the equivalent of the number we are discussing is called the “guess-o-meter.”

As others have said it is a prediction based on the recent past. The same thing happens on some level with the combined/gas range that’s displayed—it is an estimate not a guarantee.

A more useful comparison would be folks sharing their electric efficiency since factory.
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FWIW, the estimated range to empty on an ICE isn't any better than with a PHEV or an EV...it's based on the energy expended, and what reserve is left based on your current use. They all buffer and average those calculations (look at instantaneous readouts if available), but are still just estimates. It's not worth worrying about. The EPA ratings are a help to compare apples to apples, but it, again, is an estimate, just based on a consistent methodology for all comers so a comparison is valid, but it isn't your real world result.
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On the forum for my EV the equivalent of the number we are discussing is called the “guess-o-meter.”

As others have said it is a prediction based on the recent past. The same thing happens on some level with the combined/gas range that’s displayed—it is an estimate not a guarantee.

A more useful comparison would be folks sharing their electric efficiency since factory.
Exactly. The starter screen has very little meaning. Even a single trip mile/KWh has very little meaning. The long term average is what matters. It represents the actual efficiency of the car.

But having that said the EV mile in thr “since factory” trip computer can be reset by dealer. Mine got reset from about 3000 miles to zero after instrument cluster was replaced. So I lost my real stats. So that since factory screen isn’t very accurate either.
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But having that said the EV mile in thr “since factory” trip computer can be reset by dealer. Mine got reset from about 3000 miles to zero after instrument cluster was replaced. So I lost my real stats. So that since factory screen isn’t very accurate either.
one would think the stats since factory shouldn’t be resettable, eh? that’s data you can’t get back!
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On the forum for my EV the equivalent of the number we are discussing is called the “guess-o-meter.”

As others have said it is a prediction based on the recent past. The same thing happens on some level with the combined/gas range that’s displayed—it is an estimate not a guarantee.

A more useful comparison would be folks sharing their electric efficiency since factory.
You're absolutely right.

However, just for the record, I wasn't asking folks to prove their eRange in Miles as shown in the gauge cluster to be right or wrong. The post was meant for folks to just post their "Highest 45e eMiles" as shown in the gauge cluster be it yesterday, present day, or tomorrow.

Now, if folks were able to achieve the range shown in the display, no matter if it's 23 miles or 63 miles of eRange,...Great,...and if not (...no matter the reason),...then it is what is,...or is not! That's all.
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100 km. Which is what? 62 miles? That’s in Europe. But usually closer to 60-65 km (40 miles).
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47 miles (US version 2023 X5 45e with 20" 740m wheels). This was after cruising down from mountains at a moderate speed ~60mph the day before.
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