[PKL]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Do they plan to F up the face of this car too?

Yes. Stick with MY22

[sandwi54]

There should be different versions of the S68 engine. The M will get the higher output > 600 HP one, and M60i gets the lower output, 535 HP one.

[Game]

Wow the 45e is already the toughest non-M car to get…this is going to further catapult that.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by 440i6MT

Honestly though, wow! This is one of the largest LCI updates to a model in BMW history

So what's the real difference between an M60i, X6M, & it's Comp version now?

There will be no more base model, it will only be the X5/X6 M Competition model. As mentioned, the HP will stay about what it is now.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by Game

Wow the 45e is already the toughest non-M car to get…this is going to further catapult that.

based on how significantly the 50e plug ins are being kicked up vs the previous gen I wonder if that is an indicator that the mild hybrid systems will deliver more a bunch more kick as well, closer to a "non-plug in"

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by xlover

based on how significantly the 50e plug ins are being kicked up vs the previous gen I wonder if that is an indicator that the mild hybrid systems will deliver more a bunch more kick as well, closer to a "non-plug in"

Not sure why you are equating one with the other but I don't think the mild hybrid systems are changing at all with the LCI.

As far as the 50e is concerned, the electric motors will likely be the same and they are just not detuning the ICE like they do in the current version.

[nosnoop]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

• LCI Production Dates: 4/2023 - 7/2026 (G05, F95); 4/2023 - 3/2027 (G06, F96)
• xDrive40i gets B58M2 and 370hp
• [formerly xDrive45e] xDrive50e gets the same powertrain as G70 [formerly 745e] 750e, bumping the output by almost 100hp from the current version to 480hp
• M50i with N63 is replaced by M60i with S68
• X5 will have the illuminated grill like X6 does now

Is the LCI getting the new dash like X7 LCI?

[mswaz]

Originally Posted by TGTBTU

Other than the HIFI and deleted fog lights, I am happy with my '22.

Style-wise, I think it's the best looking SUV on the market and delighted to have the "last" year of the current vehicle.

2023 model year will be last year

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by Game

Wow the 45e is already the toughest non-M car to get…this is going to further catapult that.

Yes. Glad i got mine (with HK) in process.

[jiggie]

There's going to be either a bunch of very happy or disappointed folks if they wait the 18 or so months to get into an LCI.

[yousefnjr]

There’s gotta be an X7 M60i around the corner. If I had it my way it would be full BEV but we’ll settle for an S68

[Game]

Originally Posted by ChillyB

Yes. Glad i got mine (with HK) in process.

Nice. I notice HK is currently back for the 45e (though the site doesn't reflect that).

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

There’s gotta be an X7 M60i around the corner. If I had it my way it would be full BEV but we’ll settle for an S68

About five months:

LCI in 08/22. Will get the refreshed B57, B58 and the new S68 engines. X7 M50i becomes X7 M60i. The lineup remains the same as now. All models will get the 48V system. The new dashboard is making an appearance.

[cellarrat]

Originally Posted by B///MWGuy

I hope there is a battery capacity increase as well for 50e...
AND faster charger support.

100% more important to me than 100 more hp

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Not really but not worth arguing over it. There is a lot more to an X5M than the engine.

Absolutely. I'm just saying similar 0-60, a V8, similar price, etc. Very close on paper.

[hksr]

Was thinking of upgrading this year, but definitely gonna wait for LCI to get into an M60i... wow...!

[mikeokimster]

Same exact thing happened with FL2 of the macan. Macan gts received turbo engine albeit with a size-able price increase. These electrified M veriants will not be short on power.

[kolosy]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Highly unlikely that it is not true. M Performance vehicles are part of BMW M so dilution isn't really a problem. Many other things separate M Performance from M cars. As far as those who didn't wait for the LCI, that is just the way things happen. If one constantly waits for the next thing they will never get it.

are we turning this into a repeat of the "is it a real M car" thread? let's not please. has there ever been an m-perf model with an S engine in it? honest question, i'm not aware of one before.

[silverstar335]

Originally Posted by Penguino

xDrive50e: 480hp

You can get the RaceChip GTS, not exactly the same gains but similar.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by kolosy

are we turning this into a repeat of the "is it a real M car" thread? let's not please. has there ever been an m-perf model with an S engine in it? honest question, i'm not aware of one before.

Not turning it into anything, just stating the facts as to what an M Performance vehicle is. It is also a fairly new concept and there will be a number of them with S engines starting with this round of the LCI's.

[Hit_Apex]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

M60i and X5M will use the same engine at different levels of tune. The output of the engine itself is rated at the same level as the engines it replaces. However, the complete powertrain will be supplemented by a mild hybrid system that will increase the actual real life performance.

I thought the X5M is going away with the LCI gen in favor of the M60i with some form of S63 (de)tune and the X5MC with the new S68?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

I thought the X5M is going away with the LCI gen in favor of the M60i with some form of S63 (de)tune and the X5MC with the new S68?

As mentioned, the base X5 M model is going away and it will just be offered as the X5 M Competition.