[swiego29382]

Originally Posted by mojoJJ

You can disable that in the settings under speed limit warning.

Thank you! I was looking for this as well and appreciate the pointer.

[evanseric21]

Originally Posted by beammeupscottie

That’s what the Tesla owner said on his post. He said he was late for work because his car’s software was downloading for an extended period of time.
I too have the “luxury” of owing more than one vehicle however the 2nd wouldn’t EVER be a Tesla ����
And for the record this is a BMW forum so bashing the product here will likely not go over too well. There are other forums to bash the product. IJS. Hopefully you aren’t too butt hurt. ��

I'm not convinced he was bashing the brand; it seemed more like he was sharing his genuine perspective. While I haven't personally owned a BMW or a Tesla, it's widely recognized that Tesla leads the pack in managing and delivering software updates – something other manufacturers could certainly emulate. Conversely, it's also well-known that Tesla's build quality and quality control could use some improvement. Here, they might take a page out of BMW's playbook. Being a fan of a brand shouldn't stop you from acknowledging their short comings. Just my perspective.

[beammeupscottie]

Originally Posted by evanseric21

I'm not convinced he was bashing the brand; it seemed more like he was sharing his genuine perspective. While I haven't personally owned a BMW or a Tesla, it's widely recognized that Tesla leads the pack in managing and delivering software updates – something other manufacturers could certainly emulate. Conversely, it's also well-known that Tesla's build quality and quality control could use some improvement. Here, they might take a page out of BMW's playbook. Being a fan of a brand shouldn't stop you from acknowledging their short comings. Just my perspective.

I agree that people should compare products etc.
it’s a whole other thing to say “all other brands are far behind” a particular brand because they’re a fanboy of said cultmobile without speaking the entire truth of the matter.
Since we all have the right to express our opinions; mine is that he indeed was bashing the product overall along with other brands and putting his preferred brand at the top of the heap. Go somewhere else with that narrative. He could’ve simply left it at the BMW experience good / bad / etc and then everyone could’ve chimed in to get insight so that we can watch for similar experiences and perhaps someone could’ve provided feedback here to help him and others. It doesn’t help anyone to come here to only complain then put down the product.

[swiego29382]

Originally Posted by beammeupscottie

That’s what the Tesla owner said on his post. He said he was late for work because his car’s software was downloading for an extended period of time.
I too have the “luxury” of owing more than one vehicle however the 2nd wouldn’t EVER be a Tesla 😂🤣
And for the record this is a BMW forum so bashing the product here will likely not go over too well. There are other forums to bash the product. IJS. Hopefully you aren’t too butt hurt. 🥴

Why did you choose to believe this supposed "Tesla owner" who claimed that he could not operate his vehicle while data was being transferred to it, which is pretty much the opposite behavior of every consumer electronics device shipped in the last three decades? Since this appears to be a normal behavior in your world that is not worthy of being challenged, when was the last time you attempted to use a device but were prohibited from doing so because it was "downloading" updates? Obviously it was recently so I hope you can list the susceptible products as a public service.

Regarding your second point, from what I have been able to discern this is a site where people speak honestly about their BMW products--good, bad and ugly--without trying to stomp out any discontent or undesirable narratives. While I get that you prefer the eradication of any feedback contrary to the narrative of "BMW is awesome!", and again that's super edgy, as a person who designs automotive systems, I love feedback and as a first-time BMW owner I actually appreciate how people here talk about the things they like and don't like with their new, expensive, highly capable but also potentially flawed vehicles, since those of us who love performance vehicles actually appreciate the bar being raised over time rather than stagnating.

Anyhow, good luck advancing your causes.

For anyone else still reading,

1. In a late night grocery run everything seemed to be OK with 8.5

2. The seating UI shortcuts in 8.5 are decent improvements. The full screen mode, a bit less so.

3. The ADAS improvements appear to be mostly visual per the release notes but I'm curious whether there are performance improvements regarding lane centering, lane changes and ADAS visualizations.

[swiego29382]

Originally Posted by evanseric21

I'm not convinced he was bashing the brand; it seemed more like he was sharing his genuine perspective. While I haven't personally owned a BMW or a Tesla, it's widely recognized that Tesla leads the pack in managing and delivering software updates – something other manufacturers could certainly emulate. Conversely, it's also well-known that Tesla's build quality and quality control could use some improvement. Here, they might take a page out of BMW's playbook. Being a fan of a brand shouldn't stop you from acknowledging their short comings. Just my perspective.

Thank you. I agree 100%. I was not bashing the brand and the idea of a person spending this much money on a vehicle only to "bash" it is rather infantile.

Tesla vehicles have a long list of strengths and weaknesses. I absolutely admire their packaging prowess, motor efficiency, heat pump design, charging elegance, autonomous technologies and software sophistication. Likewise I despise the design precision, UI ergonomics, second row comfort, attention to detail, untethered downloads and crap adhesives. It seems weird to me that an owner of a BMW vehicle should absolve BMW of its weaknesses and closes eyes to the strengths of their competitions, but hey maybe that's just me.

BMW makes excellent physical vehicles and the fact that my wife and I chose this one over a similarly priced Cayenne S hopefully attests to us not decrying the company. That said, while I've been deeply impressed by the physical performance, design, packaging and ergonomics of the vehicle itself, the software seems (to me) to be a huge achilles heel. I get that some people probably can't tolerate that conclusion. That's fine with me. I don't care terribly if they want to damage BMW's brand by not wanting to motivate long term SW improvements.

[Jeff J]

Tried my update last night and ran into a snag. The software downloaded to my phone and uploaded to the car just fine. The app says it’s ready to install on the car. I went to install after letting the car sit locked for a couple of hours, and this is where the trouble began….

Opened the car with the key fob and went to the update page. It said “start update” for about half a second and then refreshed to say “prepping; we’ll let you know when you can install” (or words to that effect - the same as when it was uploading the file while driving around). I can’t get it back to the Start Installation page. Let it sit locked overnight and still no joy. I’m on a level surface, engine off, park brake set, lights manually off, etc.

Suggestions?

[Jeff J]

The "Upgrade Now" message popped up briefly when I parked after a drive this morning, and I was ready for it just in case. Managed to click on it in the half second it was there, and the system recognized it and ran the upgrade. Software is now installed, but I have a check engine light as a side effect. I locked the car and will let it go to sleep and hope that it wakes up healthy.

Follow up: After a couple of sleep cycles, the CEL went away. All seems fine now. New climate screen is certainly more intuitive than the old one!

[evanseric21]

Originally Posted by beammeupscottie

I agree that people should compare products etc.
it’s a whole other thing to say “all other brands are far behind” a particular brand because they’re a fanboy of said cultmobile without speaking the entire truth of the matter.
Since we all have the right to express our opinions; mine is that he indeed was bashing the product overall along with other brands and putting his preferred brand at the top of the heap. Go somewhere else with that narrative. He could’ve simply left it at the BMW experience good / bad / etc and then everyone could’ve chimed in to get insight so that we can watch for similar experiences and perhaps someone could’ve provided feedback here to help him and others. It doesn’t help anyone to come here to only complain then put down the product.

I think we might just have to agree to disagree. I happen to agree with him that all other brands lag behind Tesla in terms of the technology in their cars and how they handle updates. However, despite this, other factors dissuaded me from choosing Tesla, which is why I have an X6 M Competition on order.

[beammeupscottie]

Originally Posted by evanseric21

I think we might just have to agree to disagree. I happen to agree with him that all other brands lag behind Tesla in terms of the technology in their cars and how they handle updates. However, despite this, other factors dissuaded me from choosing Tesla, which is why I have an X6 M Competition on order.

Enjoy your X6 M Comp. It’s a great ride.

[LukasAT]

Originally Posted by vitipr

Well my update came with a check engine light and no map in the cluster, AR Sport Guauge etc. Also steering wheel right scroll doesnt do anything now. how can I remove the update?

same, also have now check engine light in the dashboard but when you check vehicle status it shows everything OK. lets see if it disappears after some driving ...

[vitipr]

Originally Posted by LukasAT

same, also have now check engine light in the dashboard but when you check vehicle status it shows everything OK. lets see if it disappears after some driving ...

It will disappear. Last two days it has been doing crazy things. Dash ambient light was scrolling to the right and left on and off last night

[LukasAT]

Originally Posted by vitipr

It will disappear. Last two days it has been doing crazy things. Dash ambient light was scrolling to the right and left on and off last night

yeah was hoping for that!

[Wtfitzvi]

would you be able to take a pic of the new CarPlay screen for ID 8.5?

[vitipr]

Dash content screen is not working today… great.

[beammeupscottie]

Originally Posted by Wtfitzvi

would you be able to take a pic of the new CarPlay screen for ID 8.5?

CarPlay screen

[evanseric21]

Originally Posted by beammeupscottie

CarPlay screen

It really sucks *** that 8.5 for M vehicles don't get the quick selects. Doesn't make much sense to me. Haven't lived with it yet but I've watched several videos.

[beammeupscottie]

Originally Posted by evanseric21

It really sucks *** that 8.5 for M vehicles don't get the quick selects. Doesn't make much sense to me. Haven't lived with it yet but I've watched several videos.

This is the only interface that I’m familiar with…how else has CarPlay been improved?
I do like the full screen but if we are missing something what is it?

[evanseric21]

Originally Posted by beammeupscottie

This is the only interface that I’m familiar with…how else has CarPlay been improved?
I do like the full screen but if we are missing something what is it?

When I get a sec I will find the YouTube videos that outline the difference between 8.5 in M cars and non-M cars. I don't have my BMW yet, so I've only seen the videos but from what I've learned the M cars don't get quick select. This isn't a Carplay thing but make switching between screen and menus easier in my opinion.

[evanseric21]

Originally Posted by beammeupscottie

This is the only interface that I’m familiar with…how else has CarPlay been improved?
I do like the full screen but if we are missing something what is it?

So the home screen is different and no QuickSelect.

iDrive 8.5
iDrive 8.5 M version

Above are the video links and I've attached photos as well. I honestly prefer the look of the non-M version with the Map on the home screen, the widgets on the far left and the quick select buttons on the bottom center. Seems silly that we lose all that because we have an M car.

[S68 X5MC]

After having my SUV nearly two months, I prefer the M version. It's not cluttered and simple, but that's my take on it.

[evanseric21]

Originally Posted by S68 X5MC

After having my SUV nearly two months, I prefer the M version. It's not cluttered and simple, but that's my take on it.

I prefer convenience and those quick select buttons offer just that. The home screen is really a non-issue as I use Carplay most of the time. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.

[HMN]

I downloaded mine yesterday on my phone. However i'm reading some negative feedback. Should I go ahead and install?