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      12-12-2023, 08:27 AM   #23
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Carwow should do a drag race between Pre LCI M50, Pre LCI X5M, LCI M60, LCI X5M and throw in the XM the hell of it. Really curious to know what the outcome is because it doesn't make sense that the S68 has the mild hybrid system/"new" engine but bmw hasnt advertised any performance benefits. It would have certainly made it more compelling to folks to actually get more after paying more. Take aesthetics out of the equation the LCI actually lost more functionality than it gained.
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Even if the XM was faster and cost less I wouldn't choose it over the X5M simple because I think its flat out ugly from every angle except maybe the front.
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Even if the XM was faster and cost less I wouldn't choose it over the X5M simple because I think its flat out ugly from every angle except maybe the front.
Agree ... I want in a way to like the XM to give me a reason to upgrade my 2020 X5MC ... but the XM is ugly to my eye
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Carwow should do a drag race between Pre LCI M50, Pre LCI X5M, LCI M60, LCI X5M and throw in the XM the hell of it. Really curious to know what the outcome is because it doesn't make sense that the S68 has the mild hybrid system/"new" engine but bmw hasnt advertised any performance benefits. It would have certainly made it more compelling to folks to actually get more after paying more. Take aesthetics out of the equation the LCI actually lost more functionality than it gained.
Agreed!!
After just reading baseline performance stats for these models, seems like the increase in price points has no real justification.
I also understand that aesthetics are subjective, but many of the cosmetic changes are a bit of a deterrent for me, personally.
I've had 3 different X6 variants since 2009... but my next car selection may take me away from BMW after almost 15 years of customer loyalty.
It's gonna be a tough decision in about 8 months when my current lease is up.
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I’m seriously considering, maybe even already decided, to buy out the lease on my 2022 X6M when lease is up in August. Not because of the pricing on new models though. I’m usually excited to get into a new vehicle every 2-3 years. Not this time. Me no like the direction BMW, and ALL car manufacturers are going with tech, screens and buttons. I know the first owner. I have low mileage. I didn’t trash it. It was meticulously maintained. Although I paid the difference in my current lease, the residual was much lower than my previous leases, so buy out is lower. I’m just not excited by anything new.
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Best route is to buy out the car at lease end, as the current value is significantly higher than the residual buy out. This is probably why BMW FS is making some of us go through a dealer now to buy out the lease so the dealership can attempt one more bite at the apple before the customer claims ownership. Dealership won’t be able to make a killing on the used car market.
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I’m seriously considering, maybe even already decided, to buy out the lease on my 2022 X6M when lease is up in August. Not because of the pricing on new models though. I’m usually excited to get into a new vehicle every 2-3 years. Not this time. Me no like the direction BMW, and ALL car manufacturers are going with tech, screens and buttons. I know the first owner. I have low mileage. I didn’t trash it. It was meticulously maintained. Although I paid the difference in my current lease, the residual was much lower than my previous leases, so buy out is lower. I’m just not excited by anything new.
Looks like we're on the same schedule and of the same mindset.
Not impressed with the design language BMW is implementing and not a fan of driving a computer with wheels, VS driving a car enhanced with sensible tech features.
I simply still would rather have an exciting driving experience than remain plugged in to all media while the car does everything and I don't get that somewhat pleasurable break from the outside world.
I too am strongly considering buying out my '22 MY lease and then just rocking that for about another 5 years, and plan for my first entry level exotic in about 5 years from now and keeping the X6M as a daily, for a total ownership time of about 10 years from when i was first handed the keys.
We'll see if any manufacturer wows me between now and Aug.
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I’m seriously considering, maybe even already decided, to buy out the lease on my 2022 X6M when lease is up in August. Not because of the pricing on new models though. I’m usually excited to get into a new vehicle every 2-3 years. Not this time. Me no like the direction BMW, and ALL car manufacturers are going with tech, screens and buttons. I know the first owner. I have low mileage. I didn’t trash it. It was meticulously maintained. Although I paid the difference in my current lease, the residual was much lower than my previous leases, so buy out is lower. I’m just not excited by anything new.
That is exactly how I felt about my X5M and did in fact purchase it. I never keep a car beyond 2-3 years, but this car changed my mind. It's only been a few months, but so far I have no second thoughts whatsoever.
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My M60i is very strong and fast for a 5,300 lb SUV. The LCI X5MC must be a mad man.
Strong and fast for sure- stock way faster than the my M50i even tuned. New engine is insane.
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Carwow should do a drag race between Pre LCI M50, Pre LCI X5M, LCI M60, LCI X5M and throw in the XM the hell of it. Really curious to know what the outcome is because it doesn't make sense that the S68 has the mild hybrid system/"new" engine but bmw hasnt advertised any performance benefits. It would have certainly made it more compelling to folks to actually get more after paying more. Take aesthetics out of the equation the LCI actually lost more functionality than it gained.
I’ll be honest, I was a bit skeptical, but after 4 months of owning, I think the LCI is a totally better beast from the tech, to the cameras, to the look, to the screens and driving etc. just the sound is my only complaint. That will be remedied.

I owned a 2021 M50i and ran it with my dragy stock and tuned. Today, I found my 2024 X5 M60i blows it away Stock. Just posted the results. All the magazines just have tested the X7 M60i (against a urus even wtf) soooo…I really wanted to know the real world performance , as it didn’t make sense knowing bmw holds back on numbers to show the same exact HP/TQ specs, and same performance times on the LCI as the m50i.

Anyways, I brought my dragy out today and ran a 3.53 to 60. Multiple similar times run with LC and all terrain tires.

1 foot rollout was 3.37.

True M engine indeed. Thank you S68. Worth every penny imo.
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I’ll be honest, I was a bit skeptical, but after 4 months of owning, I think the LCI is a totally better beast from the tech, to the cameras, to the look, to the screens and driving etc. just the sound is my only complaint. That will be remedied.

I owned a 2021 M50i and ran it with my dragy stock and tuned. Today, I found my 2024 X5 M60i blows it away Stock. Just posted the results. All the magazines just have tested the X7 M60i (against a urus even wtf) soooo…I really wanted to know the real world performance , as it didn’t make sense knowing bmw holds back on numbers to show the same exact HP/TQ specs, and same performance times on the LCI as the m50i.

Anyways, I brought my dragy out today and ran a 3.53 to 60. Multiple similar times run with LC and all terrain tires.

1 foot rollout was 3.37.

True M engine indeed. Thank you S68. Worth every penny imo.
I climbed out of an M50i which was extremely strong and handled quite well and directly into an LCI M60i and the difference is very significant and especially after the 300 mile rev limit. This thing explodes off the line with a hybrid bump and a TTV8 that delivers its full bucket of TQ at like 1600 RPM.
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Best route is to buy out the car at lease end, as the current value is significantly higher than the residual buy out. This is probably why BMW FS is making some of us go through a dealer now to buy out the lease so the dealership can attempt one more bite at the apple before the customer claims ownership. Dealership won’t be able to make a killing on the used car market.
What?! I think I can just pay off the lease via BMWFS website (generate payoff quote option). First I have heard of having to re-buy my car through a dealership at lease end. I have had luck selling the car at lease end to a BMW dealership instead of just turning it in. Walked away from my 2019 X4 with a check for $6K.
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Best route is to buy out the car at lease end, as the current value is significantly higher than the residual buy out. This is probably why BMW FS is making some of us go through a dealer now to buy out the lease so the dealership can attempt one more bite at the apple before the customer claims ownership. Dealership won’t be able to make a killing on the used car market.
When i bought out my lease back in July i did it directly with BMWFS. I did reach out to my dealership but they even said to go work with BMW directly because they would just be making money on top if i went through them. Some states might have different rules though. Someone told me for CT they needed to bring the car back to the dealership for inspection before you could buy/buyout the car.
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I was told in Oregon if I wanted to buy out the lease, at least finance wise I would have to go to the dealership (paying cash you might not need to)
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When i bought out my lease back in July i did it directly with BMWFS. I did reach out to my dealership but they even said to go work with BMW directly because they would just be making money on top if i went through them. Some states might have different rules though. Someone told me for CT they needed to bring the car back to the dealership for inspection before you could buy/buyout the car.
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Did you finance it, or buy it flat out at lease end? Also, did you extend warranty or services?
Curious to see what worked for you, as we are in the same state and strongly considering buying out my lease this coming Aug.
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Did you finance it, or buy it flat out at lease end? Also, did you extend warranty or services?
Curious to see what worked for you, as we are in the same state and strongly considering buying out my lease this coming Aug.
I'm curious too. I'm pretty certain I will be buying it out.
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I pretty much reached out to several lenders online then picked the one that had the best rate and then had them mail a check to BMWFS. Once they receive it they will send you the title and you are done. You will have to go to the dmv and re-register the car. Really simple process. BMWFS also gives you the option to get your MSD back or use it to pay down the car. I did the latter.

I didn't get the extended warranty at that time because I didn't know just how long i'll keep this car and i still have the original warranty until the summer of this year. I'll decide then if its worth purchasing or not.
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I pretty much reached out to several lenders online then picked the one that had the best rate and then had them mail a check to BMWFS. Once they receive it they will send you the title and you are done. You will have to go to the dmv and re-register the car. Really simple process. BMWFS also gives you the option to get your MSD back or use it to pay down the car. I did the latter.

I didn't get the extended warranty at that time because I didn't know just how long i'll keep this car and i still have the original warranty until the summer of this year. I'll decide then if its worth purchasing or not.
Got you. Using your own selected financial institution who offered the best rate makes sense. Once BMWFS receives the check from them, car is yours!
As far as warranty and service, one of the only reasons I started leasing is because of the free services for such an expensive car. I would be nervous being on the hook for any unforseen mechanical issues, since I plan on keeping mine for another 4 years, if I ultimately decide to buy out my lease.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
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I spoke to BMWFS last week and the rep said in my state (CA) I didn’t have to go through a dealer and that I could finance the payoff with them if I wanted to. I’ve got an order in for a 2024 LCI x6m but am considering keeping what I have now.
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Just spoke with Bmw finance and in Oregon I can go directly through Bmw FS and skip the dealer. They quoted me 60 months at 6.25
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Just spoke with Bmw finance and in Oregon I can go directly through Bmw FS and skip the dealer. They quoted me 60 months at 6.25
That’s a high rate, as I belive there was a promo rate of 2.99% last month (Dec 2023). Appears to be an incentive not to re-finance.
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