[BigEvan1923]

Would happily replace my X7M50i with this. It might not have the spaciousness of the cabin but I'll bet the boot size is fairly similar and the performance/handling will be light years ahead. Worth it.

[Luminor513]

Looking forward to seeing how well this performs compared to RS6.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Eddybro

Bmw finally made a bmw to get excited about … and it’s coming to the USA!!

Exactly. Everyone who doesn’t want the wagon can cruise around in their Coupe/Sedan which will be a dime a dozen by the time these hit the streets. Just look at some of the RS-6’s rolling around. A few mods and those things are Dope!!

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by Luminor513

Looking forward to seeing how well this performs compared to RS6.

I suppose just as usual BMW will be much quicker in straight line when dry and slower when wet we may not like Audis but their Quattro on less than perfect surfaces is phenomenal.

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by JM322

Where do you see the price? Or you just guessing it will cost the same as a regular m5?

The current XM is US$160K -- the new M5 will have a massaged version of that powertrain. I figure a minimum of 150K.

[Nahlem]

Now this is very exiting especially for those in the US finally getting a proper BMW wagon in the US lets hope folks buy it now so BMW will considering this in the future also. Exited for ya US folks!

[Rafichicago]

I think it’ll start somewhere in $120K range for base M5 which will be right around 12% more than F90 that started at 106K or 108K than will go up from there depending on how many M5s they’re going to come up with. M5 M5 comp red label CS CSL 50th Anniversary etc etc. One more super special from another 😀

[Rat_House]

The side profile is far superior compared to the sedan

[NotSharocks]

I am the least amount of electrified over an electrified automatic only M5 wagon.

But it's cool that they're trying to keep up with Audi after like 5 years.

Good job BMW.

[mirob]

I believe the infatuation here in the US with sport wagons is the fact that they've been a forbidden fruit for so long, only getting some of them sprinkled in sporadically - domestic and foreign.

In all honesty, I love the concept and think they're cool as shit but I would never buy one. It's meant to be sporty and practical but it's worse at both than it's counterparts, the sedan and the SUV. In other words, if a sport sedan is not practical enough for you, you might as well just get a performance SUV. And people do, and I doubt that this time it will be any different.

TL;DR

It's cool because it's different, and everyone wants one until there's actually one for sale - then no one buys one.

This is, of course, my opinion and I'm subject to being wrong more often than not...just ask my wife.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by Paco1M

SOP will be 07/2024 💁🏼‍♂️

G90 M5 sedan SOP 07/24
G99 M5 Touring SOP 11/24

[jphcbpa]

side profile looks damn good...

[G30 B58]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I just don’t get the station wagons, but I guess if you really need one this would be the one to get…

Do you "get" SUVs that never leave pavement?

[M2siast]

Good for you guys that can spend $200k on it. I was hoping for a wagon M3 manual for $100k, that never came…

So, I’m out of the market completely.

[eljay]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I just don’t get the station wagons, but I guess if you really need one this would be the one to get…

Yeah, it's a wagon thing. You either love them or you don't get it.
I drive them not because I need them, but because I love the hatchback/wagon shape. To me coupe is the most beautiful automotive form, but not practical. And if I need two extra doors, why not use the empty air over the trunk footprint?

And allow me to alter your statement...
"... if you really need one, one of these would be the one to get:"
Audi RS6 Avant
Volvo V60 Recharge / Polestar
MB AMG E63 S Wagon
Porsche Panamera
Porsche Taycan
M5 Touring

And the ROW, of course, has plenty more choices!

OK, BMW send it (pun intended!!) already!

[mfarrzhp]

Originally Posted by mirob

I believe the infatuation here in the US with sport wagons is the fact that they've been a forbidden fruit for so long, only getting some of them sprinkled in sporadically - domestic and foreign.

I agree, and I fall into the trap of really liking the old RS4 Avant the US didn’t get up to the CTS-V, E55, and RS6 wagon, etc.

I think the difference with the B5? (not a die hard Audi guy) RS4 wagon is that it was way more of a sleeper. These new wagons are in your face, no doubt performance machines with gaping grilles, 21” wheels, CCBs, badges galore and mid 6 figure price tags.

For my money, I’d either go X5M Comp if I’m spending 6 figures, or something like the M135i or M240i hatch if they made it for the US. Even an M2 hatch at $70K would be a real interesting vehicle.

I don’t really care about what others think of my cars, but when half of my buddies would make fun of my $150K wagon, that takes away a little bit of the fun.

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by eljay

Yeah, it's a wagon thing. You either love them or you don't get it.
I drive them not because I need them, but because I love the hatchback/wagon shape. To me coupe is the most beautiful automotive form, but not practical. And if I need two extra doors, why not use the empty air over the trunk footprint?

And allow me to alter your statement...
"... if you really need one, one of these would be the one to get:"
Audi RS6 Avant
Volvo V60 Recharge / Polestar
MB AMG E63 S Wagon
Porsche Panamera
Porsche Taycan
M5 Touring

And the ROW, of course, has plenty more choices!

OK, BMW send it (pun intended!!) already!

Panamera Sport Turismo would be an obvious choice. If it only wouldn’t tip the scale at 5K lbs

[eljay]

Originally Posted by Rafichicago

Panamera Sport Turismo would be an obvious choice. If it only wouldn’t tip the scale at 5K lbs

Indeed!

I personally prefer smaller cars and these supercar territory wagons (both in performance and price) don't appeal to me as much as their smaller brothers: RS4 Avant, C43, V60, M3 Touring etc.

And look at how many of those camouflage stickers they have to remove! It's no wonder it will take them until next summer to reveal it!

[Rafichicago]

The weight of every vehicle takes away a lot from driving experience and one doesn’t know until tried. I have an old 06 Z4 3.0SI with manual and while obviously underpowered it is so much fun to toss around. There is one and only one thing that we can blame for newer cars to become heavy pigs and that is emissions regulations. This is the main reason for additional equipment sensors filters heaters, the list goes on and all of that causes overweight. Manufacturers even drop oil pressures (Audi VW group) on idle so the car can run leaner (lower oil pressure less resistance for the engine to overcome to remain running) than those transmissions being setup in the way so the engine stays close to 1k -1.3k rpm while normal driving. What happens than is low oil pressure exactly where you need it. Bottom end of the engine. Oil film gets broken down and here are the famous rod bearing problems. Bottom end with low rpm low oil pressures is under lot of stress. Emission regulations are what is to blame for reliability of the newer cars and it’s additional weight. And that’s a fact.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by brianeck

I think its kind of a funny premise. . . They claim there is "no demand" for an m3 (or even just a 3 series touring) in the US so they won't drop a cheaper one. Then they drop one into a super expensive, "mega touring" category that's market really can't be all that big.

Is their goal to get 1/2 of the sales from MB e63 and 1/2 of the sales from Audi RS6 potential buyers? Even that's a lofty goal, getting 1/3 of the sales in the super-touring marketplace.

I feel like its funny to claim that there is "no demand" for something when instead it is impossible to gauge demand, since there is actually "no supply."

In this instance, perhaps if the e63 and rs6 are oversold, maybe they can gauge that there is, in fact, demand?

I just wish the car companies would stop playing copy cat and start innovating again. You have to "create demand," that's what innovation is all about.

I guess that the profit margin on a M5 is so high that they can risk the wagon even if they sell so little. But since this body style will have to be certified for North American market they should at least try a regular 5 touring it would spread the costs.

[Salespunk]

I will buy one if they get the EV/ICE integration right. Test drove an XM and the cutover between electric only and hybrid was horrible. Noticeable slowdown/speed up when the motor comes in like the old days when the AC compressor would turn on and suck 5-10 hp off the motor.

In comparison driving the Volvo XC90 phev you cannot feel when the motor kicks in. You hear it, but don't feel it.

Either way I am die hard wagon fanatic/BMW fanboi so likely I will get one either way since I have been waiting forever for something like this.

[Evinrude1975]

IMO A station wagon is 100% better than a sedan. as Italian-American When we talk about design ans style I prefer to listen to my Italian side. 😄