[Tekhed2]

More pics.

[Tekhed2]

I have a few more pics but was struggling to just get what's here loaded.

After running this tire and wheel setup I can report back that I've had no problems at all. After getting the vehicle lowered, there is no rubbing...nothing is touching.

The ride is very smooth, far better than OEM, I was surprised.

No knock on HAS, but I'll only go coilover or I just won't do the suspension mod again on any car I own.

Is the X5M too low? Not for me, no. In fact, my wife's M60 still holds the record in our house when she places her suspension in loading mode, otherwise we're at the same ride height when she's in sport mode.

The X5M feels planted. The front camber appears less then when I ran the MSS. I don't have the numbers, so that's probably a meaningless comment.

What would I do different?

I would have gone with a 23x12 on the rear and a 22x11 on the front with the same tires. Nonetheless I'm happy where I'm at now as well.

What do I feel like I did right this last go around?

I ran my stock wheel setup with spacers for a couple months to evaluate the offset I was looking for. I calculated all of my numbers for my custom wheels from that setup.

I reviewed everyone else running custom offsets to see how the wheels would actually look on an X5M.

I measured my "imaginary wheels" multipe times before dropping money.

[Jeff J]

Originally Posted by Tekhed2

Finally got my KW V4s installed on July 3rd. Everything I expected was completely disrupted. I've had coilovers before, but not on an SUV, so I was blown away by the performance and comfort. This feels like the suspension BMW should have equipped the X5M with. We can argue corporate finances and marketing...but in a perfect world, the KW V4s is what they should have equipped this vehicle with.

Quick call out to

1. IND for maintaining great customer service throughout the delivery process. It's a 5 month wait, so anyone looking to purchase, be prepared.

2. Parts Score for the insanely professional install experience. I will be returning to have all my future mods done here.

Looking good! Any rubbing at all at full steering lock forward or reverse or over normal road bumps? My new wheels are inbound (ok, in a machine shop somewhere...); same sizes as yours, but with a very slightly different offset. Might be a bit much poke for me with stock suspension, but lowered you're looking really good, so long as it doesn't rub...

[Tekhed2]

Originally Posted by Jeff J

Looking good! Any rubbing at all at full steering lock forward or reverse or over normal road bumps? My new wheels are inbound (ok, in a machine shop somewhere...); same sizes as yours, but with a very slightly different offset. Might be a bit much poke for me with stock suspension, but lowered you're looking really good, so long as it doesn't rub...

Hey Jeff, thanks...absolutely no rub. We tried (my family driving around town). I've taken all the usual routes that would be sure to create something...and...nothing.

I'm not sure if it shows up in the pics, but the shop cambered the rear just a tad (not much more at all beyond OEM specs). Essentially allowing everything to clear by a hair. The front just did it's thing as it does with lowering.

I did find it a bit strange that on MSS the front camber was quite extreme but with the coilovers it doesn't seem so prominent. Not sure why that it is.

I can fit maybe a finger and a half between the tire and the bottom of the wheel well?

Please post those pics as soon as you're all set up, I'm looking forward to seeing your build.

How soon do you think you'll have your rims?

[Tekhed2]

Originally Posted by Jeff J

Looking good! Any rubbing at all at full steering lock forward or reverse or over normal road bumps? My new wheels are inbound (ok, in a machine shop somewhere...); same sizes as yours, but with a very slightly different offset. Might be a bit much poke for me with stock suspension, but lowered you're looking really good, so long as it doesn't rub...

...sorry, to answer your question a bit more directly. No, on wheel lock there is no rub or contact. Regardless of direction or road dips, the experience feels like "stock+".

[Jeff J]

Originally Posted by Tekhed2

How soon do you think you'll have your rims?

I just got the order in a week or so ago, so I'm at least a couple of months out. Honestly, by then I'll be close enough to burning through the factory tires that I might just run them down completely before I swap wheels. The factory rims will ultimately become my winter set in the end (we don't get enough snow here any more to have to worry about downsizing for deep snow). Maybe ridiculously frugal of me, given the price of everything involved, but there it is.

But I'll get a picture up here when the time comes, don't worry.

[ipayincash]

Beautiful setup you have! So happy when another white f95 posts on here lol By any chance would you happen to have any pics with it not lowered on your new wheels ??? I'm wanting to go on 23's but don't want to lower but haven't seen one single post like that so curious to see how that would look, big plus since yours is actually white would really give me a true idea (fingers crossed you have some pics!!)

[Tekhed2]

Originally Posted by ipayincash

Beautiful setup you have! So happy when another white f95 posts on here lol By any chance would you happen to have any pics with it not lowered on your new wheels ??? I'm wanting to go on 23's but don't want to lower but haven't seen one single post like that so curious to see how that would look, big plus since yours is actually white would really give me a true idea (fingers crossed you have some pics!!)

Now that you mention it, there aren't many white variants on the forum! Congrats on having the best color.

I didn't want to own this picture, but I do, and here it is. This is just before the drop. I hope this is helpful.

Keep in mind that the front is a 22" wheel, the rear is a 23" wheel. Both front and back have the same rolling diameter though (nearly the same).

[ipayincash]

Originally Posted by Tekhed2

Now that you mention it, there aren't many white variants on the forum! Congrats on having the best color.

I didn't want to own this picture, but I do, and here it is. This is just before the drop. I hope this is helpful.

Keep in mind that the front is a 22" wheel, the rear is a 23" wheel. Both front and back have the same rolling diameter though (nearly the same).

THANKS FOR POSTING! WOW it’s insane how much cleaner it looks once you lowered it. I can see why you didn’t want to post but it’s really nice to see the difference. Plus someone may like it lifted lol I was like everyone else and couldn’t stand the atrocious wheel gap but somehow after a couple years I’ve kinda gotten used to it and kinda like it now lol (go figure don’t ask me how) since I’m used to the oem wheels I was thinking maybe just putting different larger wheels 23 squared but this picture really gives me an idea on how it would look lol I think I would def end up lowering if I added wheels lol

[S68 X5MC]

I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to correct the computer on new wheel setups and if the dealer is able to do so.

I just ordered wheels and they're 22x11 front and 22x12 rear. I've decided on tire sizes which are 295/35/22 front and 325/35/22 rear. The only type I want are PS4's which are very limited on the sizes you can get.

https://tiresize.com/calculator/

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

Front Stock
295/35/21
Diameter: 29.1"
Width: 11.6"
Sidewall: 4.1"
Circum.: 91.5"
Revs/Mile: 693

Rear Stock
315/30/22
Diameter: 29.4"
Width: 12.4"
Sidewall: 3.7"
Circum.: 92.4"
Revs/Mile: 685

Front Aftermarket
295/35/22
Diameter: 30.1"
Width: 11.6"
Sidewall: 4.1"
Circum.: 94.6"
Revs/Mile: 670

Rear Aftermarket
325/35/22
Diameter: 31"
Width: 12.8"
Sidewall: 4.5"
Circum.: 97.2"
Revs/Mile: 652

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The only other option is to go the sizes below.

Front Aftermarket
285/30/22
Diameter: 28.7"
Width: 11.2"
Sidewall: 3.4"
Circum.: 90.2"
Revs/Mile: 702

Rear Aftermarket
315/30/22
Diameter: 29.4"
Width: 12.4"
Sidewall: 3.7"
Circum.: 92.4"
Revs/Mile: 685

[Jeff J]

You're looking for a way to correct the speedometer/odometer to account for the larger rolling diameter of your new tires, correct? I'm not aware of a way to do that on a stock vehicle. There's at least one company that sells a small box that, when appropriately wired, intercepts and alters the speedo signal in a way that supposedly accomplishes what you want to do, but I have no experience with it.

It would be nice if the "custom tire size" setting in iDrive would actually let you enter a custom size, but it doesn't. Simple math to implement, so I suspect not having it is in response to legal / compliance concerns of some kind.

[azm3]

Originally Posted by Tekhed2

Now that you mention it, there aren't many white variants on the forum! Congrats on having the best color.

I didn't want to own this picture, but I do, and here it is. This is just before the drop. I hope this is helpful.

Keep in mind that the front is a 22" wheel, the rear is a 23" wheel. Both front and back have the same rolling diameter though (nearly the same).

Goody working on BMW's now? Wheels look great! I just ordered a 2pc set in aluminum for my TBII F95 as well.

[azm3]

Originally Posted by Jeff J

You're looking for a way to correct the speedometer/odometer to account for the larger rolling diameter of your new tires, correct? I'm not aware of a way to do that on a stock vehicle. There's at least one company that sells a small box that, when appropriately wired, intercepts and alters the speedo signal in a way that supposedly accomplishes what you want to do, but I have no experience with it.

It would be nice if the "custom tire size" setting in iDrive would actually let you enter a custom size, but it doesn't. Simple math to implement, so I suspect not having it is in response to legal / compliance concerns of some kind.

Back in the day on the E series, you could adjust the wheel size correction factor through the cluster, and if I remember correctly, you could change through coding in the F15/F85 series, but it was only turning on/off a 3mph adjustment. Curious if they still have option to code for the G, I can look around in esys and ista to see what I can find...

[Jeff J]

Originally Posted by azm3

Back in the day on the E series, you could adjust the wheel size correction factor through the cluster, and if I remember correctly, you could change through coding in the F15/F85 series, but it was only turning on/off a 3mph adjustment. Curious if they still have option to code for the G, I can look around in esys and ista to see what I can find...

Alas, no coding on the LCI F95, which is what S68 X5MC appears to have.

This is one of those things that's easy to do on a lifted pickup, but BMW assumes / hopes that we won't mess with the factory rolling diameter for any reason. Full disclosure: I have 22/23 wheels with factory sidewall heights inbound (i.e. an inch larger rolling diameter than stock) and am going to have the exact same problem, so I certainly hope someone has found a solution...

[S68 X5MC]

Either way, it's going to look great for all of our rides and a couple miles an hour off is whatever. I can't wait to get my setup on.

[Tekhed2]

Originally Posted by azm3

Goody working on BMW's now? Wheels look great! I just ordered a 2pc set in aluminum for my TBII F95 as well.

Hi, I took it over to Parts Score (https://partsscore.com/bmw-performan...scottsdale-az/).

Very cool place to drop the car off. It was like going to a real life Fast and Furious garage? Maybe what I imagine a garage in Japan would be like back in the days of the Midnight Club? This may or may not be anything to anyone else, but for me it was.

It was like that but there were Bimmers, Lambos, Ferrari...etc (all tricked out).

Very professional environment.

Thanks and congrats on your wheel purchase. Pics?

[Tekhed2]

Hey folks, I just wanted to provide a quick update on where things are at 2k miles post V4 install.

Regarding ride quality, nothing but impressed, you simply cannot go wrong if you go this route.

Tire wear? Okay this is where I am now completely confused. The front tires are wearing 100% even as if the car was OEM. LOL...okay, so 100% BMW OEM which means modest interior wear as we all know BMWs have more camber out-of-the-box than most other manufacturers.

Compared to my wife's X5 M60, nearly the same. On my MSS I would already see noticeable wear (and possibly cupping). I'm on PS4s, so these are soft compared to Perelli.

Right now I'm anticipating tire purchases to land on OEM expected time tables depending on how I drive, so 8-10kish. 10k being max.

On MSS I was lucky to grab 5k.

I'm still on KWs delivery dampening settings. While these are comfortable, they feel a tad soft. I'm going to start adjusting these slowly. I want a bit more stiffness, but nothing too excessive.

Regarding my tire size plus up? Excellent. Love it. I feel like I hit the lottery regarding comfort, performance, and aesthetics. I've managed to keep OEM tire height ratios. To my eye they look good.

I felt like my previous setup (red X5M) looked a bit thin on the sidewalls. This will be personal preference for everyone, so please do not take my comment as something I'm trying to spout as truth.

Okay, that's it for now. I guess the only other thing I learned is that I have a spare tire. I realize my transparency just opened me up for a slap in the face, but I could have sworn my previous M cars did not have a spare or donut, so I just assumed the X5M did not have one.

That said, with my current setup I would feel perfectly fine taking this on a road trip.

Be well everyone

[Tekhed2]

Originally Posted by S68 X5MC

I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to correct the computer on new wheel setups and if the dealer is able to do so.

I just ordered wheels and they're 22x11 front and 22x12 rear. I've decided on tire sizes which are 295/35/22 front and 325/35/22 rear. The only type I want are PS4's which are very limited on the sizes you can get.

https://tiresize.com/calculator/

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

Front Stock
295/35/21
Diameter: 29.1"
Width: 11.6"
Sidewall: 4.1"
Circum.: 91.5"
Revs/Mile: 693

Rear Stock
315/30/22
Diameter: 29.4"
Width: 12.4"
Sidewall: 3.7"
Circum.: 92.4"
Revs/Mile: 685

Front Aftermarket
295/35/22
Diameter: 30.1"
Width: 11.6"
Sidewall: 4.1"
Circum.: 94.6"
Revs/Mile: 670

Rear Aftermarket
325/35/22
Diameter: 31"
Width: 12.8"
Sidewall: 4.5"
Circum.: 97.2"
Revs/Mile: 652

I wanna say front to rear you want to stay as close as possible, I think with this setup you're actually closer than OEM. I know mine is.

That said I don't recall what the individual axel plus-up thresholds are. Maybe 2%? I think you're still okay.

I'm about 2mph off (maybe less, but no way to really measure that).

I've had no issues with my computers. The vehicle has been inspected by BMW for regular maintenance since the tire/wheel swap.

[GJCaesar]

Regarding front to rear axle differences for my x6m lci bmw have 295/35/21 315/35/21 sizes approved.I have them in the tire menu and on the front door sizes recommended psi.This is 2.1% difference which was surprising for me.

[Tekhed2]

Originally Posted by GJCaesar

Regarding front to rear axle differences for my x6m lci bmw have 295/35/21 315/35/21 sizes approved.I have them in the tire menu and on the front door sizes recommended psi.This is 2.1% difference which was surprising for me.

Nice, thanks for reporting those stats, that will help someone.

[Tekhed2]

When the suspension was installed the dampening/rebound was left at KW out-of-the-box settings. Unfortunately I did not record those, however I believe these are posted in their manual.

Today I changed both the high speed and low speed dampening by 2 clicks to the right (more firm). After driving for about 60 miles, highway, backroads, and roundabouts, I've determined that I now have a new vehicle. LOL...this handles incredibly well. Taking roundabouts at increased velocity is a joke. Coming out of the corners feels so clean and smooth. Very satisfying.

I was expecting a jarring ride, however I simply ended up with a smoother ride. Certain bumps are more jarring, however this is overcome by slowing down more than than I might normally. I did noticed that the "bounce" is completely eliminated. There was a very slight bounce, not pronounced, but enough to annoy me.

The X5M feels so planted now. If the X5M is your chosen cup of tea worth sinking any cash into, then I would say simply make the purchase and do not stress the build time. If this is a passing fancy, but you simply want more, maybe opt for a Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

With this suspension and the natural power of the X5M, I'd say you would be frustrating many sports car drivers on a driving course. There's a good chance you would even embarrass a few of them.

I think I've found my happy place with the suspension and these settings. If anything changes I'll be sure to post here, otherwise feel free to post your alternative tire and wheel configurations here so others may benefit.

Thanks