[LWG]

My car is in the shop now and they are able to do the software update and get the cornering lights working. They are also replacing a headlight, had a malfunction with it.

[sk0rchi]

Originally Posted by X5_CC

The way you describe operation is the way I've seen it. I find it useless, however. By the time they come on, I've already entered the area that would have benefitted from illumination earlier.

I agree that the experience and usefulness is as if the lights are late to the party. The functionality and benefit under the current programming is better realized when going slow. The lights would better benefit the driver if they could be pre-activated when approaching a turn vs. during a turn. Perhaps this will change with future firmware as BMW works thru safety/regulation/compliance (just speculation).

[ScottMZ3]

Every BMW model with cornering lights has them activate with the turn indicator and in reverse. Every one. Even the new M850i and new 3-Series with laser lights.

EXCEPT apparently the X5. Looks like we got them activated...which is a good first step. But I agree with others here, if they don't come on with the turn indicator they are basically useless. The whole point is to illuminate an area prior to entering that area. If it requires you to turn the wheel a substantial amount you will have already made the turn and their usefulness is eliminated. And the idea of having them on in reverse is that it assumes you are backing the car out of an area and will be turning to the left/right after backing out...so you need to be able to see both directions very well.

[mbhammer]

Originally Posted by russelldav

It frustrates me that BMW does not make software release notes available to the public so you can see what is new - they should really after all it is part of the product you have purchased, and just ask Boeing what can happen if you don't tell the operator exactly what the software does.

It would also be great if they had an area of the ConnectedDrive website where you could report software bugs and suggest/vote for new features.

As cars and their architecture become increasingly dependant on software, this surely has to become the norm.

BMW is following industry standard practice... which sucks for us. My experience is that YOU FIRST have to report an issue, and if there is a bulletin on it, THEN you'll get the fix for free.

It never or rarely works in reverse.

Precisely why I asked about the other bulletins. I want to know what they cover, so I can proactively get serviced.

As for providing owners a platform for reporting bugs and requesting features? BMW has failed to yet realize that it has become a software company. Because if they had, they'd do as you describe. But if I were to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, it'd have to do with the fact that many of these issues have impacts on safety, e.g. collision avoidance not working. Certain there'd be legal issues with public airing of such problems on a platform they'd host and monitor.

[jasrboyd]

Had my cornering lights fixed yesterday. They updated me to 03.37 and they also said they did the recall on the bolts for the cornering lights. I had a rattle in my X5 and couldn’t fix it myself but after the recall fix the rattles gone. 1 more thing the cornering lights as far as I can see only come on when the wheels are turned that’s it.
The update did reset a lot of things but it was easy to put things back the way they were.

[batm4n]

I had an early production G05 and asked them to activate the cornering lights.

My paper work says the programmed the corner lights and referenced SI B630319 campaign when programing the BDC to activate it.

Anyone have the details on that?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by batm4n

I had an early production G05 and asked them to activate the cornering lights.

My paper work says the programmed the corner lights and referenced SI B630319 campaign when programing the BDC to activate it.

Anyone have the details on that?

I just got mine done yesterday. You probably were updated to 03/2019.48 which has the corner light activation. Unfortunately I did a quick test this afternoon and they don't come on. Maybe I just didn't hit the right condition for the test.

[batm4n]

Yup, I got updated from 11/2018.30 -> 03/2019.48

Seems upgrading versions addressed these 3 bulletins

SI B340918 - DSC MIL issue
SI B630319 - Cornering lights
SI B610319 - Battery reprogram/recall

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by batm4n

Yup, I got updated from 11/2018.30 -> 03/2019.48

Seems upgrading versions addressed these 3 bulletins

SI B340918 - DSC MIL issue
SI B630319 - Cornering lights
SI B610319 - Battery reprogram/recall

Mine was only the last two but I was on a higher version (11/2018.53) to begin with so that is probably why.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by mbarrett635

Who is Bob Breznak? Clearly he's an idiot, since virtually every other model BMW has cornering lights. What DOT rule? I hate when they spout BS like they know something. Ask then to provide the rule . . .

FMVSS 108 and maximum installation height of 34" for auxiliary cornering lamps. If installed within a combination headlamp, the low beam vertical reference height applied (hence why all US spec BMW SUV with Cornering Lamps used a supplementary portion contained with in the fog lamps in previous generations).

This has been worked around somewhat with functionality variations depending on the specific vehicle equipment.

[natahoa]

I haven’t checked mine, but I do not have the laser headlights.
I don’t drive much at night.

Cornering lights are ONLY with the upgraded laser headlights, correct?

[VTENGR]

Originally Posted by natahoa

I haven’t checked mine, but I do not have the laser headlights.
I don’t drive much at night.

Cornering lights are ONLY with the upgraded laser headlights, correct?

Yes - only with laser lights in the US.

[Jgc650i]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I just got mine done yesterday. You probably were updated to 03/2019.48 which has the corner light activation. Unfortunately I did a quick test this afternoon and they don't come on. Maybe I just didn't hit the right condition for the test.

Interesting, mine was in the shop for something else today and I asked them to update software for the cornering lights. I was previously on 11/2018.68 and was updated today to 03/2019.48 same as you. The service receipt says they tested before and after update and cornering lights were not activated before and were activated and functional after. Best I can tell the cornering lights are NOT activated. They clearly are not coming on when turning the wheel all the way over in either direction.

[mbarrett635]

Originally Posted by lemetier

FMVSS 108 and maximum installation height of 34" for auxiliary cornering lamps. If installed within a combination headlamp, the low beam vertical reference height applied (hence why all US spec BMW SUV with Cornering Lamps used a supplementary portion contained with in the fog lamps in previous generations).

This has been worked around somewhat with functionality variations depending on the specific vehicle equipment.

So why do mine work?

[mbarrett635]

Originally Posted by Jgc650i

Interesting, mine was in the shop for something else today and I asked them to update software for the cornering lights. I was previously on 11/2018.68 and was updated today to 03/2019.48 same as you. The service receipt says they tested before and after update and cornering lights were not activated before and were activated and functional after. Best I can tell the cornering lights are NOT activated. They clearly are not coming on when turning the wheel all the way over in either direction.

Are your headlights set on Auto? I believe that is also necessary for them to work.

[Jgc650i]

Originally Posted by mbarrett635

Are your headlights set on Auto? I believe that is also necessary for them to work.

Yes, set to Auto. Tried it both ways, set to auto and set to manual low beams.

[X54TH]

This is what you'll see

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Jgc650i

Interesting, mine was in the shop for something else today and I asked them to update software for the cornering lights. I was previously on 11/2018.68 and was updated today to 03/2019.48 same as you. The service receipt says they tested before and after update and cornering lights were not activated before and were activated and functional after. Best I can tell the cornering lights are NOT activated. They clearly are not coming on when turning the wheel all the way over in either direction.

Same thing with mine. Last Thursday I was updated to .48 and it says they tested them. No matter what I did I couldn't get them to work.


Edit: I just ran out and tested them again and they are working. Just have missed them somehow when I did my other tests.

[batm4n]

The cornering lights are real subtle.
Here is what they look like when on and off.

I am able to activate them by having the car in park and turning the steering wheel either direction to the max lock either direction. It doesn't take much from the max lock for the light to turn off so make sure it's at the max.

[Jgc650i]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Same thing with mine. Last Thursday I was updated to .48 and it says they tested them. No matter what I did I couldn't get them to work.


Edit: I just ran out and tested them again and they are working. Just have missed them somehow when I did my other tests.

Good to know, maybe I'm just not realizing they're working and need to check more carefully. I'll check again tomorrow.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by mbarrett635

So why do mine work?

NHTSA issued a temporary Waiver of Conformity. They can also revoke it too if they so choose 90 days after activation if no permanent agreement is made.

[mbarrett635]

Originally Posted by lemetier

NHTSA issued a temporary Waiver of Conformity. They can also revoke it too if they so choose 90 days after activation if no permanent agreement is made.

I see my original reply has been deleted, along with your very rude response. I will simply state your information is incorrect.