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      01-08-2008, 05:54 PM   #1
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Back from dyno........doesn't seem to be a boost leak!

Sorry I've been bugging you all w/ boost leak questions, seems they were unjustified.

Just got back from my local shop and did 3 quick pulls to see what my car was doing.

1st run was w the bypass plugs in. The car had been sitting w/ the battery unplugged for a good hour prior to leaving the house this afternoon to head to NAPA so the adaptations had been reset. I had driven the car for a good 45 minutes in rush hour traffic before I got the call from the shop that the dyno was finally open, so the car was well heat soaked.

Got to the shop and went right up on the dyno, no cooldown. Car has 20k miles on it and its STILL on the 1st stock air filter.....its pretty damned dirty so i'm sure its killing some power. Their fan was broken too so these runs were w/ out a fan.....car was good and hot.

I'll have the printouts tomorrow hopefully, their printer was broken and they can't email. It was on a dynojet w STD/5 settings.

To the best of my memory

stock - 286hp, 289lb ft
V2 at 94%, zero adaptation time or cooldown - 345 hp, 358lb ft
V2 at 95%, zero adaptation or cooldown - 346hp, 364lb ft


So it looks like my car is a bit down on torque and hp, but not far off. I'm sure a new air filter or cold air intake plus some cooldown time after rush hour and I'll see some better numbers!

Here is the 4th gear datalog from the 95% pull. Still only in the 12.5psi range even w/ NO fan blowing on the intercooler.....very curious to see the hp levels at 15psi. Ambient temp was 65 degrees.

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Congrats man, glad you got it sorted out. I bet thats quite a bit of stress relief.
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Don't be surprised if you see another 10-20whp with a functional fan in front of the IC.

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Congrats man, glad you got it sorted out. I bet thats quite a bit of stress relief.
Thanks man, its kinda sorted out. W no fan running the intake temps could not have been low and yet I'm still only seeing 12.5psi. Leads me to think I'm missing a good chunk of power still. Put a fan in there and it should bump up hp too.

We shall see

edit: Shiv beat me to the fan comment......he's quick like ninja.
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No Fan?!?!?
nope, the thing decided to kick in the bucket when the rear mount turbo Camaro SS before me was dynoing.......he put down over 900whp. Heard it leave, pure sex. Thats a sound a 335 will never make.

I said screw it and lets get that thing strapped down.....at least now I know I dont have a boost leak.
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.....at least now I know I dont have a boost leak.
Especialy with the new Forge valves huh?
I can't see your pic here at work but I'm interested to see your curve with the new Forge DVs.
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Especialy with the new Forge valves huh?
I can't see your pic here at work but I'm interested to see your curve with the new Forge DVs.
the boost curve wasnt that smooth on the dyno run, it didnt have any time to adapt.

Here is a boost log I ran a few nights ago that looks really good w the Forge DV's in.

at 94% in 35 degree weather

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Good to hear it isn't a boost leak Sniz....

Off-topic, what year was that camaro?
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346 rwhp
364 rwtq

on 95% settings, on a hot engine, with no fan and a stock air filter with 20K miles on it????

I'd say your car is running strong.
Funny how you thought it was down on power and had boost leak. lol

I take it you are on 93 Octane too. If so, that would be about right.

I'd say you'd be at:

355-358 rwhp
370-375 rwtq

with a clean air filter, and a fan keeping the car cool.

For comparison, I did:
345 rwhp
352 rwtq

on 92 Octane with settings at 92%...so as you can see, with your higher octane and higher torque settings, you are right where you should be (at least you would be if you had a fan on and a clean air filter).
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I'd say your car is running strong.
Funny how you thought it was down on power and had boost leak. lol

After that Forge DV's went in and went back and retightened all the intercooler clamps I was 75% sure I didnt have boost leak based on the way the car was performing. That was only in the last week, before that I was only seeing 9psi or so.

I just couldnt be sure though as I dont have a boost gauge installed....why again did BMW not include one on this car? I havent seen a boost gauge install that I like so far btw.

Fact of the matter is, according to the Procede software I'm still not at the prescribed boost. 12.5psi at 95%. Its gotta be something w/ the aftermarket intercooler being so much larger.

But the power seems to be there......
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Good to hear it isn't a boost leak Sniz....

Off-topic, what year was that camaro?

It was the latest year......what was that? 2002? I forget now, but that car was clean and sounded amazing.

I didn't ask for details, but it sounded like a fully built motor w a serious turbo. Based on the numbers it put down thats probably right.


I actually just found out tonight that the guy dynoing my car tonight had a record breaking Supra. 7.9 in the 1/4 on BFGoodrich drag radials at some crazy mph....180 I think. Pictures of it all over his shop. That was several years ago I think.

He was pretty impressed w the 335. I kept telling him he needs to make a good CHEAP oil cooler upgrade and he'll make some $$. Now he wants to make some custom DP's for me.

They had a turbo in their showroom that was the size of a pizza.....it was ridiculous. 91mm turbo I think, it was in the showcase because they just upgraded to a larger one on their race car......
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It was the latest year......what was that? 2002? I forget now, but that car was clean and sounded amazing.

I didn't ask for details, but it sounded like a fully built motor w a serious turbo. Based on the numbers it put down thats probably right.


I actually just found out tonight that the guy dynoing my car tonight had a record breaking Supra. 7.9 in the 1/4 on BFGoodrich drag radials at some crazy mph....180 I think. Pictures of it all over his shop. He was pretty impressed w the 335. I kept telling him he needs to make a good CHEAP oil cooler upgrade and he'll make some $$. Now he wants to make some custom DP's for me.
Ok, WOW! So many things in the post that are badass! 2002 Camaro SS with a turbo would be amazing. I was hoping it was gonna be an old school one(67-69) so that you could reminisce a little bit.

As far as custom DP's that would be an interesting project if the price was right. I mean Shiv is working on a custom map right now, so you have nothing to lose if the price is right.

The oil cooler would also be another great idea for anyone. If someone could make a Dinan Replica and price it right, they could make some serious cash...

Congrats on everything bro....
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Ok, WOW! So many things in the post that are badass! 2002 Camaro SS with a turbo would be amazing. I was hoping it was gonna be an old school one(67-69) so that you could reminisce a little bit.
If it was a '69 I would be driving that guys car right now and he'd be going w a black eye.
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If it was a '69 I would be driving that guys car right now and he'd be going w a black eye.
LOL, you know what I am talking about....
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LS3 powered '69SS w/ coilovers, 6 speed, an rear mountd turbo is

one day I'll have it back
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LS3 powered '69SS w/ coilovers, 6 speed, an rear mountd turbo is

one day I'll have it back
For sure! Hell, give me a stock 69' SS and I will be happy....
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For sure! Hell, give me a stock 69' SS and I will be happy....
I know I was
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Dude I honestly feel bad every time I think about the picture you posted before....
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