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      05-09-2015, 07:34 AM   #1
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M2 limited production or not?

What are the latest rumors? Will this be limited release like 1M? Is it generally expected that they will be hard to come by and have large dealer surcharges? Expected release date?
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      05-09-2015, 08:43 AM   #2
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Too many. Nope. Probably not. Production starts November 2015.
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      05-09-2015, 11:50 AM   #4
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Too many. Nope. Probably not. Production starts November 2015.
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Limited color of exterior
Only one color interior
Possibly limited production?
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I don't believe the rumours, if they're true they can keep it, I'll take the M235i, and it's not going to be limited
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I don't believe the rumours, if they're true they can keep it, I'll take the M235i, and it's not going to be limited
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I don't believe the rumours, if they're true they can keep it, I'll take the M235i, and it's not going to be limited
Sounds like alot of people are still skeptical that this car will be full production and priced reasonably. For me 50k-52k starting is reasonable, pushing 55k is too high. And if limited quantities cause dealer markup up to 55k then its just as bad
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      05-10-2015, 01:43 PM   #9
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Production may be limited by sales. How many more 1Ms do you think they really could have sold? A couple thousand?
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I agree, this will be an enthusiasts car, I doubt it will sell in high numbers especially if it’s £10k/$15k more than an M235i which is what seems to be the case in the UK with discounts, I’m sure it will be less in the US as we always seem to pay more
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I read somewhere that M boss Nitschke, before he left, said the M2 would not be a limited production car; but, it would be hard to get one. To me that means if you want an M2 you'll get one; however, you'll have to wait for it. But why?

Speculation: Could it be that BMW will only produce M2s after a set number have been pre-purchased by customers?

Since all 2 series cars (including the M2) are, I think, produced on the same assembly line, that line is likely very busy with popular, stock, 2 series cars. From an efficiency standpoint, it seems to make sense to produce 100 M2,s at once, rather than trying to build one or two at a time, disrupting the line each time with parts/procedures peculiar to the M2.
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I read somewhere that M boss Nitschke, before he left, said the M2 would not be a limited production car; but, it would be hard to get one. To me that means if you want an M2 you'll get one; however, you'll have to wait for it. But why?

Speculation: Could it be that BMW will only produce M2s after a set number have been pre-purchased by customers?

Since all 2 series cars (including the M2) are, I think, produced on the same assembly line, that line is likely very busy with popular, stock, 2 series cars. From an efficiency standpoint, it seems to make sense to produce 100 M2,s at once, rather than trying to build one or two at a time, disrupting the line each time with parts/procedures peculiar to the M2.
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Lines are usually tooled to do multiple models without downtime. They would just give less production "spots" to the M2 if there is higher demand for other more profitable models. At least thats how many of the US factories work.
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Lines are usually tooled to do multiple models without downtime. They would just give less production "spots" to the M2 if there is higher demand for other more profitable models. At least thats how many of the US factories work.
Ok, my first analysis is wrong and the question remains - you can have the M2 you want; but, you're going to have to wait to get it?
So, how about this explanation:
Another poster brought up the effect of Cafe standards. He proposed that BMW had to build a certain number of "environmentally friendly" 2 series cars. They need to do that in order to keep their clean air average acceptably low. Only then were they allowed to build an M2 polluter.
In essence, BMW has to sell X number of non polluters before you get your M2 polluter.
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I read somewhere that M boss Nitschke, before he left, said the M2 would not be a limited production car; but, it would be hard to get one. To me that means if you want an M2 you'll get one; however, you'll have to wait for it. But why?

Speculation: Could it be that BMW will only produce M2s after a set number have been pre-purchased by customers?

Since all 2 series cars (including the M2) are, I think, produced on the same assembly line, that line is likely very busy with popular, stock, 2 series cars. From an efficiency standpoint, it seems to make sense to produce 100 M2,s at once, rather than trying to build one or two at a time, disrupting the line each time with parts/procedures peculiar to the M2.
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Well in the US dealers where getting 1 or 2 max per month for pretty much the first year if you are a dealer with a decent size... not sure if they are getting more now.....

So say bmw says dealers will get 1 or 2 a quarter and there you have it... production is not really limited but will be "hard" to get and they will likely make you pay quite a bit if you want to get one...

offer and demand...
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To much competition, and again it's a parts bin car

It's not going to happen, the 1M Coupe' was the tease.

BMW is going to want to sell as many as they can make.
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To much competition, and again it's a parts bin car

It's not going to happen, the 1M Coupe' was the tease.

BMW is going to want to sell as many as they can make.
I am fine with that if it keeps the price down
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BMW should just discontinue the frankly boring M235 and make the M2 the proper M car in the lineup. Leave the 228 as is for the 'entry' range. That way there will be no production issues and the the M2 will get plenty of sales.
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BMW should just discontinue the frankly boring M235 and make the M2 the proper M car in the lineup. Leave the 228 as is for the 'entry' range. That way there will be no production issues and the the M2 will get plenty of sales.
I promise you that BMW knows what is best for BMW, I can promise you that
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BMW should just discontinue the frankly boring M235 and make the M2 the proper M car in the lineup. Leave the 228 as is for the 'entry' range. That way there will be no production issues and the the M2 will get plenty of sales.
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I promise you that BMW knows what is best for BMW, I can promise you that
The F22 M235i will continue to be produced, at least until June 2016 (future M240i - B58B30M0). The fact that more exciting cars exist or may/will exist (and likely come at a higher price point) does not make this car "boring". It's appealing, not appalling.

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BMW should just discontinue the frankly boring M235 and make the M2 the proper M car in the lineup. Leave the 228 as is for the 'entry' range. That way there will be no production issues and the the M2 will get plenty of sales.
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I promise you that BMW knows what is best for BMW, I can promise you that
The F22 M235i will continue to be produced, at least until June 2016 (future M240i - B58B30M0). The fact that more exciting cars exist or may/will exist (and likely come at a higher price point) does not make this car "boring". It's appealing, not appalling.

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go drive one....it's pretty boring!

BTW whenever I think of '240', I think of the Volvo 240! lol
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go drive one....it's pretty boring!
BTW whenever I think of '240', I think of the Volvo 240! lol
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