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View Poll Results: What model year(s) charge pipe failures have you had?
2007 2 11.76%
2008 3 17.65%
2009+ 12 70.59%
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      11-11-2015, 05:08 PM   #1
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Not just another charge pipe thread. (poll)

We all know that the stock charge pipes on our cars suck, or rather blow. I think I'm seeing a pattern though. It seems that the 2007-2008 models fail less often than the later designs. I know the designs vary between the model lineups, but I'm just trying to gather some data on the number of failed charge pipes per year to see if this theory is correct. Feel free to post the model below.
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      11-11-2015, 05:16 PM   #2
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Failed chargepipe Nov 2015 @ 65k miles.

Replaced. Huge increase in power, and now the engine management light has stopped coming on.

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metal is better then plastic just replace it.
oil + plastic is no good either.
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This isn't a matter of whether or not to replace it. It's a poll to find out if particular factory pipes are more likely to fail.
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      11-11-2015, 07:12 PM   #5
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You may have something. Mine is 2007, 80k mi, just fine.
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You may have something. Mine is 2007, 80k mi, just fine.
That's what I'm thinking. I know they changed designs and my 2008 is running stage 1 on 93,000 miles while my 2009 blew up on stock tune at 75,000.
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We all know that the stock charge pipes on our cars suck, or rather blow. I think I'm seeing a pattern though. It seems that the 2007-2008 models fail less often than the later designs. I know the designs vary between the model lineups, but I'm just trying to gather some data on the number of failed charge pipes per year to see if this theory is correct. Feel free to post the model below.
Are you asking if they fail on stock psi levels, or on higher than stock psi? Lol if your pushing 18 psi on a charge pipe that is designed for 8 psi... Hmmm that might be why. If they are failing on stock tune, then this is interesting.
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I don't care stock vs tuned boost levels. Just trying to see what year models you all have had failures with.
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      11-11-2015, 07:21 PM   #9
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My 2010 n54 charge pipe didn't last me more than 1000 miles on a tune and was replaced at 40k miles with aftermarket. Had 2007 n54 with jb4 and then later switched to Cobb tune and never had a problem all the way up to 85k with original charge pipe until I sold the car.
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So it looks like there may have been something toward late 2008 that changed and was weaker. I wonder if it was a different supplier or something?
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By the way, if anybody you guys who've had failures are reading this and haven't voted, can you please click one or more answers at the top? It's for science. Lol.
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2009 50k+ miles. JB4, DCI, DP, ~16Psi and still stock CP, no problems.
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Looks like I'm in need of a new one....2007. 103k been tuned for 5k now.

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Looks like I'm in need of a new one....2007. 103k been tuned for 5k now.
Thats just the silly elbow, had it changed to a smooth silicone one...
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I replaced it before it broke.
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I had about 85k miles I would guess before I bought a charge pipe. No problems here with mine either
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Looks like I'm in need of a new one....2007. 103k been tuned for 5k now.

That elbow was a leak point on my 2008 as well, but the charge pipe itself is still fine. All it needed in my case was a new hose clamp
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The year is pretty moot and flawed in a controlled statistic. Older vehicles will be more prone to failure. The car is older, the plastic is older, it's gone through more heat cycles and becomes more brittle.

These charge pipes fail even on 2015's. Just replace it if you want to avoid the issue.
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I think it's been well established before the 2007-2008 are stronger than 2009+. That being said, I replaced mine before it broke on my 2008.
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2010 335i N54 with ~31k, OEM charge pipe lasted about a week with a tune.
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Thats just the silly elbow, had it changed to a smooth silicone one...
Where did you get that elbow? I'm considering replacing the whole chargepipe anyways. From my understanding, at least regarding the ER chargepipe, I can purchase the 2010 model chargepipe to replace the accordion BS that seems to be leaking.

"If you have a 2006 to 6/2009 and you want the "elbow" that replaces the "accordian" OEM elbow, you can purchase the 2010 model charge pipe.

Can anybody confirm that the vrsf chargepipe will also eliminate this accordion elbow? From the looks of it, it comes with a rubber coupler.
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Quote:
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Where did you get that elbow? I'm considering replacing the whole chargepipe anyways. From my understanding, at least regarding the ER chargepipe, I can purchase the 2010 model chargepipe to replace the accordion BS that seems to be leaking.

"If you have a 2006 to 6/2009 and you want the "elbow" that replaces the "accordian" OEM elbow, you can purchase the 2010 model charge pipe.

Can anybody confirm that the vrsf chargepipe will also eliminate this accordion elbow? From the looks of it, it comes with a rubber coupler.
ER Long Version fits on any year, 2006-2010 N54.

VRSF is a long version, fits on any year also.

Both replace the accordion elbow you are referring to.
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