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      02-19-2016, 10:57 PM   #1
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F8x Ceramics on M2

Does anyone know if you can order the ceramics through the M performance devision? To the bolt them on the M2.
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      02-19-2016, 11:05 PM   #2
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I don't believe you can, after watching Sams Laguna Seca review he mentions that there is no Ceramic option for the M2.

Maybe the M3/M4's will fit?
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I don't believe you can, after watching Sams Laguna Seca review he mentions that there is no Ceramic option for the M2.

Maybe the M3/M4's will fit?
That is what I mean. Can you order the brakes separately. And if so how much. I am assuming more than the 8K they are as an option on the F8x.
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I think that is a good question. If you take a close look a the moto GP pace car you will see the M4 ceramic brakes on them. It makes sense that given the suspension from the M4 was put on the M2 it could be done. It would be hugely expensive and I doubt it is needed for 99.9% of the drivers in the world but my guess is with enough money it could be done.
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The ceramics are available to retrofit.

http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462
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The ceramics are available to retrofit.

http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462
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Same wheels same Alu suspension components so it's a highly likely theoretical yes.
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I think that is a good question. If you take a close look a the moto GP pace car you will see the M4 ceramic brakes on them. It makes sense that given the suspension from the M4 was put on the M2 it could be done. It would be hugely expensive and I doubt it is needed for 99.9% of the drivers in the world but my guess is with enough money it could be done.
Agreed,doubtful if they would be needed in the real world.Incidentally I reckon that pace car has more to it than meets the eye....
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I think that is a good question. If you take a close look a the moto GP pace car you will see the M4 ceramic brakes on them. It makes sense that given the suspension from the M4 was put on the M2 it could be done. It would be hugely expensive and I doubt it is needed for 99.9% of the drivers in the world but my guess is with enough money it could be done.
Agreed,doubtful if they would be needed in the real world.Incidentally I reckon that pace car has more to it than meets the eye....
Probably the CSL version with an S55 :P just like the M4 safety car with water injection.
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Agreed,doubtful if they would be needed in the real world.Incidentally I reckon that pace car has more to it than meets the eye....

Well, we don`t 370HP, or 430 HP for that matter IRL.....

I`ve had the PCCB on the CGTS, and oh man what beautifull brakes they where, performance wise an for the eye that is

I would love the CCB on the M2, imagine the the golden calipers on the LBB..

Let`s not forget the unsprung weight is going to be about 50% less compared to its steel brothers.

Also the lack of brake dust is a great advantage IMO, given the soft steel brake-pads BMW is using with create a lot of brake dust.

Now the price is something else I must admit, but I expect they will become cheaper in time...

Let me sleep on it........
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The ceramics are available to retrofit.

http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462
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      02-23-2016, 02:14 PM   #12
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This is when it's best to find a wrecked M3 with carbon brakes and pull them off. They would probably be a direct bolt in the way these cars share so many part numbers but who knows.
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Why would anyone want CCB? They threw M track pads on the stock rotors, let the journals beat on them for 8 hours on the track and were fine.
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Why would anyone want CCB? They threw M track pads on the stock rotors, let the journals beat on them for 8 hours on the track and were fine.
Unsprung weight, mostly. Dust, secondarily. I've never liked stock BMW pads because of dust.

But that is a lot of money to pay for no dust
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Unsprung weight, mostly. Dust, secondarily. I've never liked stock BMW pads because of dust.

But that is a lot of money to pay for no dust
It will probably be cheaper to pay someone to clean your wheels each day.
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It will probably be cheaper to pay someone to clean your wheels each day.
lol well said
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This is the type of modification I would like to see happen. Expensive though. But maybe a wrecked m3/4 would help.

Anybody planning on doing this in the next couple of months?

What ever happened to the carbon fiber wheels BMW was working on????
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It will cost you 20% of the cost of the M2 with little to no benefit... No benefit on the street and not much better than OEM rotors with good track pads at the track. The main advantage of CCB is they handle heat better. You won't see those temps (to induce fade) on public roads. You can also deal with the heat issue with proper pads on the track. In terms of stopping distance, there is little =difference (lots of discussions on the M3 forum) unless the steel brakes are fading which, as mentioned, you can virtually eliminate with the appropriate pads.

CCB's advantage, IMO, is the ability to go street to track without doing anything, dust and a bit of weight. The downside is HUGE cost. I can't imagine $11,000 is worth not having to clean the wheels a little more frequently
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Does anyone know if you can order the ceramics through the M performance devision? To the bolt them on the M2.
personally, I dont think they are worth it. regular BMW brakes hold up pretty well on the track. I've done 2 track days on stock bmw brakes 2 months a part and then took it to dealer to have them changed under maintenance. ceramics are not covered.
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You will not even be able to order it with different color rotors let alone the ceramic brakes. I am sure they will put the ceramic on the M2 Csl version though. Lets hope it sees states side.
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It will cost you 20% of the cost of the M2 with little to no benefit... No benefit on the street and not much better than OEM rotors with good track pads at the track. The main advantage of CCB is they handle heat better. You won't see those temps (to induce fade) on public roads. You can also deal with the heat issue with proper pads on the track. In terms of stopping distance, there is little =difference (lots of discussions on the M3 forum) unless the steel brakes are fading which, as mentioned, you can virtually eliminate with the appropriate pads.

CCB's advantage, IMO, is the ability to go street to track without doing anything, dust and a bit of weight. The downside is HUGE cost. I can't imagine $11,000 is worth not having to clean the wheels a little more frequently
I can agree that they are expensive to get and to maintain. And braking wise they dont offer much better performance than steel ones.

But what about weight savings? Ive read that it is only 15 pounds of rotational mass that you save. But have also read that it is 42 pounds of savings. Anybody know?

42 pounds of rotational mass would be worth considering...
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I can agree that they are expensive to get and to maintain. And braking wise they dont offer much better performance than steel ones.

But what about weight savings? Ive read that it is only 15 pounds of rotational mass that you save. But have also read that it is 42 pounds of savings. Anybody know?

42 pounds of rotational mass would be worth considering...
i would just loose 40 lbs myself before spending 10-15k to swap brakes.
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