Wagner intercooler fitting.

mr-modster · 04-29-2016, 12:55 AM

Hi guys I have just purchased a Wagner intercooler in preparation for my hybrids going on.
I am trying to cut costs wherever possible so would like to fit the intercooler myself. Does anyone know of a guide I could follow? Or have any advice would be helpful thanks.

Yozh · 04-29-2016, 01:52 AM

Doesn't it come with the installation instructions?

mr-modster · 04-29-2016, 02:40 AM

I haven't got any instructions as bought from someone else.

StuyMac · 04-29-2016, 04:36 AM

Its a direct replacement, so OEM off, Wagner on

mr-modster · 04-29-2016, 04:42 AM

But that's the thing I don't know how to remove the standard one lol. I assume it's not to complicated do I have to remove the front bumper?

Chappers 71 · 04-29-2016, 05:56 AM

If it's a direct fit replacement & you can't find a online video, Google mishimoto 135/335i inter cooler, they have a installation video on there website. I would assume fitting to be similar.

CvilleBill · 04-29-2016, 06:26 AM

Try google. Wagner has instructions on their site.

WreckerX5d · 04-29-2016, 12:52 PM

It's not too hard.

Put car on ramps or stands
Remove under tray
Disconnect C clips on IC
Unbolt IC
Drop IC
Trim the black fan shroud enough to fit the Wagner IC
Lift up new IC and align hoses
Connect hoses (make sure they slide in easily, if not they won't get a good seal) with C clips attached. You will hear an audible click once they're in the correct spot.
Bolt up the IC with the spacers and bolts included
Put back on under tray
Unramp or stand the car.

Enjoy

Total time: 2 beers or 45mins.

Helpful tips: I use a floor jack to lift the IC into place. The sockets needed are 8mm and 10mm, and angled pliers help out as well to get the C clips off.

BB_cuda · 04-29-2016, 01:08 PM

Not sure if Wagner is different but reconnection of hose to IC inlet can be tricky. The best bet (that I found) is to remove red hose from turbo outlet. Next connect red hose to IC inlet while it's still out of car. Much easier. Install IC. Reconnect hose to turbo outlet. The IC outlet hose us more manageable with IC already bolted in. I had the red hose blow off on me by not getting it fully seated in. Got immediate limp mode on first decent pull.

Lexx.md · 04-29-2016, 02:18 PM

So any pictures and just start and we will see what problems you will hit.

BB_cuda · 04-29-2016, 09:43 PM

Numerous people have commented about having to trim 1/4" plastic off but not sure exactly where.

JayNC335d · 04-29-2016, 09:53 PM

You don't have to trim the plastic, but will need an extra set of hands to "pull" on the bumper to slide it in to place. For me it was a pain to connect the red hose, wish I had the tip/thought of removing it, connecting it on the IC and then re-installing

Thecastle · 05-01-2016, 07:01 AM

Just as a suggestion, after having done a lot of ic installs. When the ic hose is really hard to get on lube it up,with some soapy water.. Sometimes they are quiet tight and hard to put on.

mr-modster · 05-02-2016, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Thecastle

Just as a suggestion, after having done a lot of ic installs. When the ic hose is really hard to get on lube it up,with some soapy water.. Sometimes they are quiet tight and hard to put on.

This is where I am stuck now just cannot manage to get the hoses back on will try the soapy water now

mr-modster · 05-02-2016, 07:26 AM

Managed to get the red hose on can't get the black one on though I'll try for a little longer if I can't then into the garage it will have to go lol

Puerto Rican 335d · 05-02-2016, 07:32 AM

I am on of the first to install the IC from Wagner and yes we had to rim a little for it to fit the bottom lip of bumper it may have contact in some cars others don't. . Once you install IC you will determine if needed or not. And welcome to the new realm of ICs

mr-modster · 05-02-2016, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

I am on of the first to install the IC from Wagner and yes we had to rim a little for it to fit the bottom lip of bumper it may have contact in some cars others don't. . Once you install IC you will determine if needed or not. And welcome to the new realm of ICs

Thanks

. I have given up trying to fit it now I actually think my black hose has been damaged by someone previously because it was bent quite abit. So now I'm taking the car to my Indy tomorrow

WreckerX5d · 05-02-2016, 11:50 AM

If the hose gets caught up inside the coupling then most likely it's the seal that's twisting and preventing a good fit. I've installed my IC maybe 15 times and found the best way to install the hoses is to slightly rock it until it eases into position. It shouldn't give much resistance while sliding inside.

A bent hose will cause problems as well.

mr-modster · 05-03-2016, 12:40 AM

This was the state of the black hose before I tried to fix it on to the cooler. You can see there is a large split in the fixing part so I think I definitely need a new one.

mr-modster · 05-03-2016, 12:42 AM

Also my red hose is in abit of a state do these normally have this much oil over them? Could it be leaking turbo oil line or something?. I have however now ordered a forge pipe

mr-modster · 05-03-2016, 06:30 AM

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=753755

That is a nice guide for anyone else who needs it. I may even give it another shot when my pipes come as I have to wait till next week for it to go into the garage.

WreckerX5d · 05-03-2016, 07:42 AM

PN# 11617791470 (green seal, hot side)
PN# 11617791469 (black seal, cold side)

Get a few of those as well and replace them.

The Forge pipe is good. It's a bit of a pain in the ass to install but it makes it easier in the long run.

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mr-modster Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 209 Posts Drives: 08 aw e92 335d m sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: kent iTrader: (0)	But that's the thing I don't know how to remove the standard one lol. I assume it's not to complicated do I have to remove the front bumper?
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WreckerX5d Warrant Officer 375 Rep 1,341 Posts Drives: Deezul Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (4)	It's not too hard. Put car on ramps or stands Remove under tray Disconnect C clips on IC Unbolt IC Drop IC Trim the black fan shroud enough to fit the Wagner IC Lift up new IC and align hoses Connect hoses (make sure they slide in easily, if not they won't get a good seal) with C clips attached. You will hear an audible click once they're in the correct spot. Bolt up the IC with the spacers and bolts included Put back on under tray Unramp or stand the car. Enjoy Total time: 2 beers or 45mins. Helpful tips: I use a floor jack to lift the IC into place. The sockets needed are 8mm and 10mm, and angled pliers help out as well to get the C clips off. __________________ Deleted, ATM I/C and tuned by B.R.R.
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BB_cuda Brigadier General 762 Rep 3,555 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Msport, 2013 X5D Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Clear Lake, Texas iTrader: (0)	Not sure if Wagner is different but reconnection of hose to IC inlet can be tricky. The best bet (that I found) is to remove red hose from turbo outlet. Next connect red hose to IC inlet while it's still out of car. Much easier. Install IC. Reconnect hose to turbo outlet. The IC outlet hose us more manageable with IC already bolted in. I had the red hose blow off on me by not getting it fully seated in. Got immediate limp mode on first decent pull.
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BB_cuda Brigadier General 762 Rep 3,555 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Msport, 2013 X5D Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Clear Lake, Texas iTrader: (0)	Numerous people have commented about having to trim 1/4" plastic off but not sure exactly where.
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JayNC335d Private First Class 26 Rep 103 Posts Drives: 2011 335d w/ Sport pkg Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Wilmington, NC iTrader: (0)	You don't have to trim the plastic, but will need an extra set of hands to "pull" on the bumper to slide it in to place. For me it was a pain to connect the red hose, wish I had the tip/thought of removing it, connecting it on the IC and then re-installing
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mr-modster Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 209 Posts Drives: 08 aw e92 335d m sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: kent iTrader: (0)	Managed to get the red hose on can't get the black one on though I'll try for a little longer if I can't then into the garage it will have to go lol
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	I am on of the first to install the IC from Wagner and yes we had to rim a little for it to fit the bottom lip of bumper it may have contact in some cars others don't. . Once you install IC you will determine if needed or not. And welcome to the new realm of ICs __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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WreckerX5d Warrant Officer 375 Rep 1,341 Posts Drives: Deezul Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (4)	If the hose gets caught up inside the coupling then most likely it's the seal that's twisting and preventing a good fit. I've installed my IC maybe 15 times and found the best way to install the hoses is to slightly rock it until it eases into position. It shouldn't give much resistance while sliding inside. A bent hose will cause problems as well. __________________ Deleted, ATM I/C and tuned by B.R.R.
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mr-modster Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 209 Posts Drives: 08 aw e92 335d m sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: kent iTrader: (0)	This was the state of the black hose before I tried to fix it on to the cooler. You can see there is a large split in the fixing part so I think I definitely need a new one.
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mr-modster Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 209 Posts Drives: 08 aw e92 335d m sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: kent iTrader: (0)	Also my red hose is in abit of a state do these normally have this much oil over them? Could it be leaking turbo oil line or something?. I have however now ordered a forge pipe
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mr-modster Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 209 Posts Drives: 08 aw e92 335d m sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: kent iTrader: (0)	http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=753755 That is a nice guide for anyone else who needs it. I may even give it another shot when my pipes come as I have to wait till next week for it to go into the garage.
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WreckerX5d Warrant Officer 375 Rep 1,341 Posts Drives: Deezul Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (4)	PN# 11617791470 (green seal, hot side) PN# 11617791469 (black seal, cold side) Get a few of those as well and replace them. The Forge pipe is good. It's a bit of a pain in the ass to install but it makes it easier in the long run. __________________ Deleted, ATM I/C and tuned by B.R.R.
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