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      07-22-2016, 08:21 AM   #1
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As the rumormill has suggested, faced with a rapidly updated GLE350 and generally intense competition in the segment, the X5 will get a replacement sooner then later.

What is interesting is that the rumors point to NO LCI for the current F15 X5 with a direct move to the next G05 chassis instead.

This video seems to support those rumors. THe next X5 is seen testing at the famed Nurburgring, which is usually a milestone in the development process.

The BMW SAV does seem to keep a similar size, but appears noticably more svelte in its body movements on track. As keeping with the entire "G" chassis range for BMW, an emphasis will be on relative weight savings.




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If they manage to bring it down in weight 3-400 pounds that would make a hell of a nice evolution.. here's hoping... (still looks pretty heavy judging by the body roll...)
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Well, i loved the E53 and the E70, the F15 however, feels like the less impressive sibling in the X5 family. Besides, i guess with the X7, the smaller sibling needs to find it's new place. As a G class, hopefully it will be a better drivers car than the F15 is, and alot lighter as well.
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If they manage to bring it down in weight 3-400 pounds that would make a hell of a nice evolution.. here's hoping... (still looks pretty heavy judging by the body roll...)
This car has no choice to be heavy. It's a large vehicle. Even if it drops pounds close to what you say it will be over or around 5000 lbs.
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Finally!

My wife had been a hardcore fan of x5, but I couldn't convince her( and honestly myself!) to choose new x5 over range rover sport, Bmw should regain its lost superiority in that segment.
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Well, i loved the E53 and the E70, the F15 however, feels like the less impressive sibling in the X5 family. Besides, i guess with the X7, the smaller sibling needs to find it's new place. As a G class, hopefully it will be a better drivers car than the F15 is, and alot lighter as well.
Yeah, cuz F15 is also essentially based on the E70 and not a brand new platform, not surprised that it is getting a makeover so soon.
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This class is so competitive, they should release a stellar product to be once again on top!
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So wait, no lci just straight to new chassis in under 7 years?
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So wait, no lci just straight to new chassis in under 7 years?
E70 and F15 shared the same platform.
The new Q7 has a new platform and is much lighter than the previous model.
The same will happen with the next generation Cayenne.
Mercedes has the LCI released, but I guess the completely new model will be ready in two years.
There is also a new VW Touareg in preparation and we have to take into account RR products and also the new XC 90 from Volvo.
Only with a new model BMW can be back on top of the class.
Their move is logic.
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5000 is/was a magic number in the USA

One thing to keep in mind on weight is that magic 5000 lb weight in the US got businesses accelerated depreciation for a number of years. Haven't checked accounting rules recently but give the large portion of these sold here they might be smart/forced to keep the weight no less than 5000.
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One thing to keep in mind on weight is that magic 5000 lb weight in the US got businesses accelerated depreciation for a number of years. Haven't checked accounting rules recently but give the large portion of these sold here they might be smart/forced to keep the weight no less than 5000.
I thought it's 6000 lb in order to get that big depreciation credit?
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One thing to keep in mind on weight is that magic 5000 lb weight in the US got businesses accelerated depreciation for a number of years. Haven't checked accounting rules recently but give the large portion of these sold here they might be smart/forced to keep the weight no less than 5000.
I thought it's 6000 lb in order to get that big depreciation credit?

You are correct, its 6000 lbs GVWR.

Note however that gross vehicular weight is not the same as curb weight.

http://www.section179.org/section_17...eductions.html
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One thing to keep in mind on weight is that magic 5000 lb weight in the US got businesses accelerated depreciation for a number of years. Haven't checked accounting rules recently but give the large portion of these sold here they might be smart/forced to keep the weight no less than 5000.
Thank you. I didn't realize that the E70 and F15 shared the same platform, now it makes sense.
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My wife had been a hardcore fan of x5, but I couldn't convince her( and honestly myself!) to choose new x5 over range rover sport, Bmw should regain its lost superiority in that segment.
Because your wife wanted a range rover has nothing to do with "lost superiority" in fact the Msport and X5M are fantastic performers with high quality interiors and are really nice overall...unless you go for the barebones uninspiring models
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The F15 X5 is not getting replaced due to competition within its segment.

BMW's typically have a seven year lifecycle and it is believed that the F15 chassis will have a five year lifecycle.

The X5 and X6 are moving to a shared chassis with the upcoming X7.

It is not because of the Mercedes-Benz GL thingy, and I called it that because they have so many classes now I cannot keep their SUV lineup straight anymore.
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Well, i loved the E53 and the E70, the F15 however, feels like the less impressive sibling in the X5 family. Besides, i guess with the X7, the smaller sibling needs to find it's new place. As a G class, hopefully it will be a better drivers car than the F15 is, and alot lighter as well.
Wait what?? The F15 weighs approx 200 - 300 lbs lighter than the E70. The F15 35i, 35d, 50i, and X5M is faster than the E70 models as well. So I don't understand what you are talking about.

The F15 interior is 10 folds better and nicer too.
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So wait, no lci just straight to new chassis in under 7 years?
Easier to manufacture when all the cars produced at the spartanburg plant are using the CLAR platform. Body shop can standardize their processes for the vehicles.
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Well, i loved the E53 and the E70, the F15 however, feels like the less impressive sibling in the X5 family. Besides, i guess with the X7, the smaller sibling needs to find it's new place. As a G class, hopefully it will be a better drivers car than the F15 is, and alot lighter as well.
Wait what?? The F15 weighs approx 200 - 300 lbs lighter than the E70. The F15 35i, 35d, 50i, and X5M is faster than the E70 models as well. So I don't understand what you are talking about.

The F15 interior is 10 folds better and nicer too.
Various magazines have shown the difference not that large. While the chassis may have been lightened, manufactures usually have bad habits of adding the weight back with more luxurious options, sound deadening materials and etc.

If you search around the net, you won't find any equivalent F15s/E70s (actual measurements) that are 200-300 pounds lighter.

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