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      09-30-2016, 01:23 PM   #1
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Does anyone else think the value of the 335d goes up when the tdi's get turned in?

I was curious to see if anybody had the same thought that I do. I work in the automotive industry. I know, and talk to a lot of people who own TDI'd who do not want to get a gasser and are looking for other options. I have also noticed that there is a lot more interest in the x5d and 335d then there used to be since the scandal with the majority of diesel drivers looking for similar options.

I don't mean to say that the value will skyrocket. But there will be much more demand for these cars in another year or so, after the turn in. Its the only diesel car with superb mileage and performance in the NA market. Where all other diesels are econoboxes or huge trucks. There are several cars like old Tacoma's, e30's, and air-cooled Porsches that had the market turn completely around on over the years. Why not the 335d and x5d?

So anybody else seeing an irradical price change coming in the future? jajaja
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I was curious to see if anybody had the same thought that I do. I work in the automotive industry. I know, and talk to a lot of people who own TDI'd who do not want to get a gasser and are looking for other options. I have also noticed that there is a lot more interest in the x5d and 335d then there used to be since the scandal with the majority of diesel drivers looking for similar options.

I don't mean to say that the value will skyrocket. But there will be much more demand for these cars in another year or so, after the turn in. Its the only diesel car with superb mileage and performance in the NA market. Where all other diesels are econoboxes or huge trucks. There are several cars like old Tacoma's, e30's, and air-cooled Porsches that had the market turn completely around on over the years. Why not the 335d and x5d?

So anybody else seeing an irradical price change coming in the future? jajaja
Perhaps slightly, but BMW is one of few manufacturers with current EPA approval to sell diesel passenger vehicles afaik. They newer D's, while 4cyl, seem to fit the TDI crowd well in terms of performance and mpg, with the exception of cost. I myself am a TDI transplant and caught the diesel bug coupled with the search for more power...I think I found that in the 335d. The buyback estimate on my TDI is higher than my all-in investment in my 335d....go figure.

I hope your thoughts are correct so I can enjoy another vehicle with minimal depreciation.
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      09-30-2016, 02:10 PM   #3
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Problem is that it's already a 5 year old car.. I could see the 328d getting more popular along with the E250 diesel but that's about it. After driving TDI's for the last 15 years, I find the 335d a perfect compromise between fuel economy and power. I wouldn't call it's fuel economy to be great, but it's decent enough. I think a lot of current TDI owners will be switching over to the 1.4TSI gasser to be honest.
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      09-30-2016, 07:08 PM   #4
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I have kept my 05 Passat wagon, of course not affected by the EPA. My guess is that a significant percentage of TDI owners will go Honda/Toyota and forget they ever liked cars. A smaller % will be loyal to the brand and its gassers.

A select few are here, or will come here. The 335d is 5 years old at newest, so that's a big limit to the attraction, until you feel what the car can do, Oh Baby!
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      09-30-2016, 09:32 PM   #5
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The same thought crossed my mind the other day. So out of curious I looked up the NADA retail of my car. I expect fast depreciation but I was caught off guard when I saw it had dropped $3k in maybe 3 to 4 months.
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I don't see our cars going up in value but they will probably maintain their value. I think we hit rock bottom in terms of depreciation.

Problem is, we bought these cars to drive them. most of our cars have miles on them. Whats the point of a diesel that isn't driven?
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I really wish BMW would bring back the 335d or some other variation of the 6 cylinder diesel like a 340d or something (with fixed emissions crap hopefully). The power and torque on the 355d is awesome with comparison to fuel mileage. I'm a few miles away from hitting 75k on my 2011. It's been pretty rock solid. *knock on wood*

The 328d is fine if all you really care is about mpgs and diesel but it sure doesn't have the grunt like the 335 version. Too bad the value on mine sucks. I doubt it'll go up much if anything else.
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I have noticed quite a bit of new users on here lately. Especially since the availability of the tunes. I really don't think the kbb value would go up.
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      10-01-2016, 08:03 PM   #9
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With all the mods + hail damage, the value of mine's going nowhere but down.
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I have a 2014 vw TDI as well as my 355d. Love both .... The mileage on the be is ridiculous thoigh :-)
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If anything, when all the tdi's get turned in and manufacturers pull the plug on diesel power, I would not be surprised to see less D2 pumps as stations report slower sales.
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If anything, when all the tdi's get turned in and manufacturers pull the plug on diesel power, I would not be surprised to see less D2 pumps as stations report slower sales.
Transport trucks, buses, heavy equipment, etc aren't going anywhere.
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3/4 and 1 ton trucks w/diesel are popular around here, too.
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Diesel is the backbone of our freight and transport. It's not going anywhere during our lifetimes. The trucking industry, trains, even ocean freight liners are all heavily dependent on diesel.
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If anything, when all the tdi's get turned in and manufacturers pull the plug on diesel power, I would not be surprised to see less D2 pumps as stations report slower sales.
Except in FL where everyone drives diesel pickups . I have seen some traffic on the X5 forums with TDI people shopping for X5d. I doubt they will affect x5 resale value. X5s drop like rocks no mater what is going on.
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I'm getting $16k for my TDi - I only paid $14.4k for my 335d.
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If anything, when all the tdi's get turned in and manufacturers pull the plug on diesel power, I would not be surprised to see less D2 pumps as stations report slower sales.
Transport trucks, buses, heavy equipment, etc aren't going anywhere.
Agreed. But they don't fuel up at the corner convenience store with the morning commuters. They fuel up at bulk stations with fleet cards.
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Agreed. But they don't fuel up at the corner convenience store with the morning commuters. They fuel up at bulk stations with fleet cards.
You shouldn't be filling up at low volume stations either
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Just my opinion. I had several performance VW's before buying a BMW 335d. Lots of VW people like BMWs and make the jump after owning a VW. I also see a lot of folks on VW forum's jumping back to VWs after experiencing the BMW repair tax. Personally, the 335d is a great car, but its well know unreliability (at least ABCs), its age, driving dynamics (heavy feeling) will keep some folks away. Yes, lots of folks want a F30 driving experience (not me)

I suspect some will jump to Mercedes-Benz as well. I'm looking for a car right now to have my company purchase, and I'm looking at mercedes diesels myself, in the form of a ML320cdi no adblue! No massive CBU problems, oh yeah and no power. The ML320cdi has what i would charitably call handling as in you can keep it on the road, but it drives like a chevy. Careful, you'll drag a door handle if you turn.... The X5 is superior but the x5 35d's are still fairly pricey compared to older mercs.
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My 2005 E320 CDI came with the "luxury" suspension as standard. The body was made from special steel alloy that hardened during the paint baking process. CD was .26.

It had sensotronic e-braking and handled extremely well. It was never that I was able to push the car to cause the tires to squeal. Mild body roll was normal, let you know where the car was momentum-wise, and did not contribute to any adverse handling. The brakes stopped on a dime.

I'll wager it handled much like the new Jaguar XE does - double A-arm front suspension, multilink rear. Fabulous!

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Short answer is no.

Value is subjective. Within a die hard sub market - this value can be skewed.

I am leaving the VW TDi segment because I am getting a premium above asset's true value at this time. Not because the market is paying this premium - because VW is being forced to buy back my car.

My decision to buy a 5 year old BMW diesel is purely based on the ability to tune for mileage and performance. Even if the values increase for BMW diesels - it would only be a small fractional increase, and even then within the sub market of people who truly desire these cars.
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