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      11-28-2017, 09:50 AM   #1
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M3 CP vs M4 GTS Drag Race (TopGear)

TopGear.com has put the M3 Competition Package against the M4 GTS in a drag race. Check out the result in video:

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We’ve staged a little in house battle this week between the BMW M3 Competition Pack and M4 GTS. The former has a 3.0-litre twin turbo straight six with 444bhp and 405lb ft, the latter uses the same engine, but has an extra 49bhp and 37lb ft of torque. The extra power comes courtesy of a water injection system that cools and condenses the charge air and allows the turbo to run higher boost pressures.

The M4 GTS is also 30kg lighter, features stickier Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres, has three way adjustable suspension, a roll cage and carbon bonnet. Both cars here feature the M-DCT double clutch gearbox (it’s standard on the GTS, a £2,645 option on the Comp), but even so the GTS costs getting on for twice as much as the M3 Comp (£120,770 plays £64,225).

BMW claims the GTS is 0.3secs faster to 62mph, posting a 3.8secs sprint. But that’s not the case. On the whole BMW is pretty good at giving accurate, repeatable, achievable acceleration figures for its cars. But boy you struggle to hit them in the new M3. The trouble is the launch control. Actually, I need to express that a different way: both have launch. But there’s no control.

What it does is give you 4,000rpm and then, when you release the brake, just dump the clutch. Cue vast wheelspin. So you try driving it off the line with the traction off, and that’s maybe a bit better, but either way getting it off the line is a lottery. So Jack and I came to the conclusion that as long as the launch was fair to both cars, we’d be happy.

Even given limitless tyres and time we were never going to match BMW’s claims at Bentwaters anyway – the surface was too dusty and the headwind too strong to aid traction or acceleration. So the end result was pretty much what we were expecting, the GTS pipping the Comp after a start which had me (in the GTS) decidedly concerned that I was going to lose out. Naturally I reacted by adding throttle, which was precisely the wrong thing to do.

Anyway, the times are pretty self-explanatory, but what is maybe interesting is to compare them to the Tesla Model S P100D we tested recently. That was almost exactly twice as fast to 10mph than either BMW. And 20mph. And 30mph. And 40mph. A quarter mile test is all about traction when cars have this much power, and that’s where the BMWs fall short.

Once they did have traction we were surprised at how quickly the gap opened up – at least until we worked out the power to weight ratios, which favour the GTS quite significantly (326bhp/tonne versus 288). In the end that allowed the GTS to pull out a whole second’s gap from 50-100mph, and another second from there to 130mph. I had thought the M3 Comp might run it closer, but in the end it was advantage GTS. The donut at the end? That was done out of sheer relief…

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      11-28-2017, 10:32 AM   #2
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That's quite a sh*t launch off the line - I'm sure he could have modulated the throttle abit or at least warmed the tyres before had..?
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8mph faster? That's a huge difference
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Fun, but I doubt anyone bought the GTS thinking it'd be good drag car. Also reaffirmed that the first mod to the F8x platform should be wider tires and not the typical HP bits.
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Why can't m division make a nice sounding exhaust note?! Pinch some amg sound engineers and be done with it.
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Why can't m division make a nice sounding exhaust note?! Pinch some amg sound engineers and be done with it.
It is awful. Capable as hell but sounds worse than nails on a chalkboard
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Why can't m division make a nice sounding exhaust note?! Pinch some amg sound engineers and be done with it.
This is why I can't see myself updating my e92 M3 to a M4.... still can't get over that sound...
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shitty launch! if in equal conditions the GTS is much faster! its even caught up and overtake in such a short distance!
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donuts on sport cup 2s. lol
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Fun, but I doubt anyone bought the GTS thinking it'd be good drag car. Also reaffirmed that the first mod to the F8x platform should be wider tires and not the typical HP bits.
rather than spending money putting in a water injection system or exhaust or a tune.. about 5-10K on serious suspension along with wider wheels and tires would be much more well spent.
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shitty launch! if in equal conditions the GTS is much faster! its even caught up and overtake in such a short distance!
But worth nearly twice the price ? A well and moderately modded CP would hang right against it
And still you'd save enough money to buy and add a reasonably nice e30 M3 to your garage as well for the price of the Caged beast. then you'd have a badass M4 CP and an E30 M3 both !
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shitty launch! if in equal conditions the GTS is much faster! its even caught up and overtake in such a short distance!
But worth nearly twice the price ? A well and moderately modded CP would hang right against it
And still you'd save enough money to buy and add a reasonably nice e30 M3 to your garage as well for the price of the Caged beast. then you'd have a badass M4 CP and an E30 M3 both !
yes for sure! specially price-wise speaking! the M3/M4 is much better for road driving, M4 GTS is a track weapon, to harsh for daily.
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Horrible launch. Ever heard of warming cup 2s before launch?
Under the same conditions the future CS will do even worse (same tires as Gts - also more hp than the comp package but not enough hp difference to catch up at the end.)
Should be redone on warm tires, dry track and then see what happens...

Next one: M4gts vs M4CS vs M4 Comp. Should be fun!
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Horrible launch. Ever heard of warming cup 2s before launch?
Under the same conditions the future CS will do even worse (same tires as Gts - also more hp than the comp package but not enough hp difference to catch up at the end.)
Should be redone on warm tires, dry track and then see what happens...

Next one: M4gts vs M4CS vs M4 Comp. Should be fun!
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4WD will solve the problem no more bad launch's no more tire warm
Better original suspension design needed. Not AWD as a bandaid for Poor mechanical grip.

The simple fact is that the M4 suspension has been evolving to where it is now. BMW Has been trying to get control of their torque monsters. The 1M could be a handful. The original M4 was a handful. The M2 is more playful and an improvement but mechanical grip is not its strength . The GTS featured better electric steering and bespoke suspension.

The ZCP improvements on the stock suspension and Diff have made serious headway towards a good overall package.
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4WD will solve the problem no more bad launch's no more tire warm
305 PS4's set at 30psi and Bilstein Pss10's solved my problems... I could actually increase the rpm on launch
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The GTS had stickier tires and it was still a razor thin margin.
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The GTS had stickier tires and it was still a razor thin margin.
Right ? Really was somewhat shocked that it didn't have more of a gap between them at the line.
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The GTS had stickier tires and it was still a razor thin margin.
Look at the trap speed though.
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The GTS had stickier tires and it was still a razor thin margin.
true and certainly not worth the double the price tag on the M4 GTS for me at least. The Competition M4 is as far as I'd like to pay for a car otherwise I'd be in the Porsche category.
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