[Auto]

Does anyone have any pics on the BMW Radio Professional from behind?

I need to see what kind of channels and inputs it has.

[solefald]

i will be able to help you with thing next week. probably on Tuesday.

[Auto]

Thank you! looking forward to see some pics.

[scampos1984]

I need the same pics in order to differenciate a stock radio from a Logic 7 one (which have optic fibre I suppose).

¡ Please help !

[Technic]

Originally Posted by Auto

Does anyone have any pics on the BMW Radio Professional from behind?

I need to see what kind of channels and inputs it has.

Business and Professional OEM HU use the same type of connector in the rear, regardless of analog or digital outputs:



Of course, the diffrerence will be that those 4 circular holes in that connector will have the fiber cables in the Top (digital) Hi Fi system.

[jonywalker]

Originally Posted by Technic

Business and Professional OEM HU use the same type of connector in the rear, regardless of analog or digital outputs:
Of course, the diffrerence will be that those 4 circular holes in that connector will have the fiber cables in the Top (digital) Hi Fi system.

which sub-area on the connector is for lineout? and which is for speaker level output as standard system don't have amp?

[scampos1984]

I think this schema is OK for the new BMWs



Large Black Plug x18126
1 / Blue-Black / Right Rear + output to amp (twisted with 5)
2 / Blue-Red / Right Front + output to amp (twisted with 6)
3 / Yellow-Red / Left Front + output to amp (twisted with 7)
4 / Yellow-Black / Left Rear + output to amp (twisted with 8)
5 / Blue-Black / Right Rear - output to amp (twisted with 1)
6 / Blue-Red / Right Front - output to amp (twisted with 2)
7 / Yellow-Red / Left Front - output to amp (twisted with 3)
8 / Yellow-Black / Left Rear - output to amp (twisted with 4)
9 / White-Yellow bands / I-bus?
10 / White-Brown / Mute from phone?
11 / White-Green / ?
12 / Brown / Ground
13 / White / Remote on-off to amp
14 / Grey-Red / Dash illumination (dimmer)
15 / Red-Green / +12v from battery (not switched)
16 / Violet-White / +12v from ignition (ACC and RUN)

small white plug x13598
Pin No. / Wire Color / Function
1 / / No function
2 / White-Brown / Audio common from 6CD player
3-7 / / No connection
8 / White-Red / Audio Left Channel from 6CD player
9 / White-Blue / Audio Right Channel from 6CD player
10 / / No Connection
11 / NAV / TV Audio +
12 / NAV / TV Audio -

NEW Small black plug: x13649 plug
Pin No. / Wire Color / Function
1 / Tape left +
2 / Tape left -
3 / Left Connection for AUX Input
4 / Right Connection for AUX Input
5 / NAV / TV Audio +
6 / White-Black / Phone audio + Positive
7 / Tape right +
8 / Tape right -
9 / No connection
10 / AUX Input Ground
11 / NAV / TV Audio +
12 / Brown-Black / Phone Audio - Groundv

[scampos1984]

So, you think this is a standard radio and not a Logic 7 one, don't you ???

[scampos1984]

BTW, what is that connector for, Technic?


P.S.: I'd appreciate some pics of your radios from the back

[Technic]

Originally Posted by scampos1984

BTW, what is that connector for, Technic?


P.S.: I'd appreciate some pics of your radios from the back

That's the PnP connector for the Blaupunkt THA line of amplifiers for OEM HUs. I think that it is either for the BMW E9x or the VW MKV Golf/GTI/Jetta...

[Technic]

Originally Posted by jonywalker

which sub-area on the connector is for lineout? and which is for speaker level output as standard system don't have amp?

Technically there is no lineout (I assume that you mean line level) lines in the OEM HU; they are either analog 5V Balanced or digital.

[scampos1984]

Thanks Technic. Let's see if somebody has pictures of the radio from behind ...

[Technic]

Originally Posted by scampos1984

Thanks Technic. Let's see if somebody has pictures of the radio from behind ...

The OEM HUs connectors in the back are the same, regardless of outputs: base or HiFi (analog), Top HiFi or Individual (digital). THe OEM HU programming is different.

So that photo above will do for all.

[jonywalker]

Tanks Technic, its a great contribution

[scampos1984]

Originally Posted by Technic

The OEM HUs connectors in the back are the same, regardless of outputs: base or HiFi (analog), Top HiFi or Individual (digital). THe OEM HU programming is different.

So that photo above will do for all.

So there's no way to know if that HU will fit in my car (base European sound)?

[Technic]

Originally Posted by scampos1984

So there's no way to know if that HU will fit in my car (base European sound)?

Your "new" OEM HU should come from a car with the same audio configuration as yours, i.e., Base <> Base or Top HiFi <> Top HiFi, for a truly plug 'n play.

I don't know how specifically the dealer reprogram a OEM HU to output either analog or digital, but the capability is there.

[scampos1984]

Originally Posted by Technic

Your "new" OEM HU should come from a car with the same audio configuration as yours, i.e., Base <> Base or Top HiFi <> Top HiFi, for a truly plug 'n play.

I don't know how specifically the dealer reprogram a OEM HU to output either analog or digital, but the capability is there.

I've been said that the HU is "new" ... I suppose it doesn't come from any car

[Technic]

Originally Posted by scampos1984

I've been said that the HU is "new" ... I suppose it doesn't come from any car

There's only one way of testing this... get it and see what happens. I don't know if by itself will automatically adjust to the specific outputs of your system or it will require dealer progarmming for the adaptation, but the unit is capable of both kind of outputs.

[scampos1984]

OK thank you very much. We'll se what happens ...

[gIzzE]

You need to program the car.
Tell the car you have option 663 (professional) and no hi-fi or Logic7 and you will get standard audio out.
Once that is programmed you can then code the radio, so you can tell the radio you have aux, cd changer etc.

What are you trying to do?? Upgrade from the business to the prof. radio??

You want to find one that has come from a car with no hi-fi upgrade, and with the same options as yours, so aux input if you have it and cd changer if you have that.


I have one that is coded for aux, bluetooth and OBC, but no USB input. It is, and this is the important part, also coded for a car with no audio upgrade, so it will be completely plug and play.
How much are you wanting to pay for one??

I was going to keep it, in case I ever need to put it back in, but could have my arm twisted.

[scampos1984]

gIzzE, I've just sent you a PM

[jonywalker]

Originally Posted by Technic

Business and Professional OEM HU use the same type of connector in the rear, regardless of analog or digital outputs:



Of course, the diffrerence will be that those 4 circular holes in that connector will have the fiber cables in the Top (digital) Hi Fi system.

where is the can-bus adapter for the radio, otherwise, where should I get the MF-Wheel signal to control radio volume, and the PDC signal.
I think in the oem system the PDC signal is mixed into the high level lineout from the radio, and the level of this signal is not adjustable durch the radio volume.
Or, the PDC signal is mixed into the amp to speaker wires? In this case I should still have the PDC signal even if my amp is turned off, but I haven't tested it.
Because I am planing with a new HU CDA-9887R, I have to consider how to setup all the oem functions with the 9887R.