[Chasing Dreams]

Dear M2 fanboys and alike,

Do you also think the seats in the OG are serious sh*t? I have now clocked 10K KM with them in the last 3 months and I am starting to develop some serious back pain.
I thought they were the same as the sport seats in my F31, but they are far less comfortable.

Seriously thinking about getting other seats. Which I would hate to spend money on.

P.S. I tried the search but couldn't find a similar topic.

[Fear-Mongrel]

Car seats are, in a way, like shoes - they either work for your body or they don't. Nobody here can help you pick the shoes you're wearing, and nobody here can help you pick your seats. The seats in the M2 may be perfect for me, but a torture device for you. You have to find seats that work for your body size, musculature, spine, etc. and that may be something different from what works for other people. You could go on a Recaro forum and ask about a particular seat design and the first 20 people that respond could tell you it's horrible - but it still may be the perfect seat for your specific body. Plus, you're on a 40K KM per year pace - that's HUGE seat time for anyone, no wonder your body is complaining. With that kind of mileage, you should be spending the money on the best seats you can afford.

[subliminalaudio]

Adjust your posture I learned this at the performance center and now I love this seats

[DanG]

Originally Posted by subliminalaudio

Adjust your posture I learned this at the performance center and now I love this seats

It is usually that the seats aren’t adjusted correctly for your body.

I also found out that having my wallet in my back pocket caused me to have back pain. Taking the wallet out of the pocket made the pain go away.

[geogerf]

Originally Posted by DanG

It is usually that the seats aren’t adjusted correctly for your body.

I also found out that having my wallet in my back pocket caused me to have back pain. Taking the wallet out of the pocket made the pain go away.

In general it's bad for your spine to sit on your wallet. I use a front pocket

[heavyD^2]

It takes me up to 3 months of owning a new car to find the right seating position that complies with my lower back. Some cars faster than others as it only took me less than a month in the M2 to find a position that didn't cause me lower back pain likely due to the fact it has quite a lot of adjustability compared to some cars with sports seats like Ford or EVO Recaro seats. There are some good videos about how to set up your seat properly as a lot of people don't adjust their seats and sideview mirrors properly.

[3tekcorps]

Unless you have a build that fits them well, they are total sh*t. I was just too big for the entire seat and sold my 16 M2 after 4 months of it. The thigh bolsters are pretty narrow and couldn't get the back pain to stop. I think about 5'8" 150 pounds is the ideal size.

I have a set of these in another vehicle and LVOE them.

http://scheel-mann.com/products

The M4 seats seem like a big improvement in the Comp.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by DanG

I also found out that having my wallet in my back pocket caused me to have back pain. Taking the wallet out of the pocket made the pain go away.

Sounds like you need a front pocket wallet.

I have this one and love it: https://www.ridgewallet.com/collections/wallets

[magha]

Originally Posted by DanG

It is usually that the seats aren't adjusted correctly for your body.

I also found out that having my wallet in my back pocket caused me to have back pain. Taking the wallet out of the pocket made the pain go away.

U need to declutter it ala George Castanza! Lol

Switched to a clip with a slot for a few cards and problem fixed

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Chasing Dreams

Dear M2 fanboys and alike,

Do you also think the seats in the OG are serious sh*t? I have now clocked 10K KM with them in the last 3 months and I am starting to develop some serious back pain.
I thought they were the same as the sport seats in my F31, but they are far less comfortable.

Seriously thinking about getting other seats. Which I would hate to spend money on.

P.S. I tried the search but couldn't find a similar topic.

LOL, Jussi?
Je rijdt er dagelijks mee van Antwerpen naar Amsterdam dacht ik? Pak liever de trein man. Of zet er Recaros in ofzo.

I found the OG M2 seats more or less ok, nothing special, I really prefer the M2C bucketseats.

Cheers
Robin

[F87_LCI]

Swapped the OG seats to the M4 seats, much better for me personally - and arguably much nicer looking. Lumbar support on the M4 seats just works better with my frame than the OG seats. Not a cheap mod though...

[Dabozo]

Damn! someone beat me to it with the Seinfeld reference lol

Lots of adjustment points...play around with it. They are not the most comfy seats for sure but also not bad.
20000km and no issues.

[magha]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Damn! someone beat me to it with the Seinfeld reference lol

Lots of adjustment points...play around with it. They are not the most comfy seats for sure but also not bad.
20000km and no issues.

Lol am sure there will be plenty of other opportunities

There's a Seinfeld reference in almost all aspects of life. LOVE IT!

Wonder what Jerry's thoughts on the M2 are although I believe he's a Porsche guy

[Rodan]

As others have said, it took me a few months to find the ideal seating position. Even then, I still find the seats, and their lack of a lower seating position one of the weak points of the OG M2.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by magha

Lol am sure there will be plenty of other opportunities

There's a Seinfeld reference in almost all aspects of life. LOVE IT!

Wonder what Jerry's thoughts on the M2 are although I believe he's a Porsche guy

Jerry what you think about the M2?

Jerry: "Meh"

[magha]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Jerry what you think about the M2?

Jerry: "Meh"

Lol or stringy like baboos shrimp

Sorry this thread is en route to getting hijacked

[tranck]

I'm 6'5" 200 lbs and I have to guard against falling asleep in them.

[mbrunner]

I don't get back pain but do have complaints over the ergonomics of the seating position. If you look at everything nothing is really optimally placed. The left side of the wheel to me feels slightly further than the right, the seat is not centered (beaten to death), the pedals are also a bit off. I just feel twisted driving the car sometimes. I am good for about 45-60 min in the car but then usually develop some knee pain.

Only an issue during a boring commute/stopandgo. I forget about it when I am driving for fun but still kind of funky.

[GoneIn4Secs]

The seat has like a dozen settings and thigh extenders, cant u find a position thatll ease your back?

But If you have back pain then any seat position, car will be hurting

[randyt]

6'5" 200 lbs, 36" inseam.

Finding a car that fits seems to be harder than I think it should be but many are easy to rule out. It's not just the seat, but the entire geometry of your body as it sits in the seat and the surrounding car. Leg, seat and back geometry & support all play a role as does physical fitness and genetic factors.

Most Japanese cars don't seem to work well for me.

I drove the M2 1,600 miles/2,500 km in the first 10 days and am up to 5,500 mi total. Longest day behind the wheel is probably 8 hours.

Not perfect, but no real problems or pain either. I have spent a fair amount of time trying to get the seat right but think I have it pretty close now.

If it doesn't work for you I have a lot of sympathy as I have had some cars that I just don't fit and driving long distances can be painful.

Hope you find a cost effective solution that works for you.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by geogerf

In general it's bad for your spine to sit on your wallet. I use a front pocket

Front pocket wallet here!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Chasing Dreams

Do you also think the seats in the OG are serious sh*t? I have now clocked 10K KM with them in the last 3 months and I am starting to develop some serious back pain.
I thought they were the same as the sport seats in my F31, but they are far less comfortable.
Seriously thinking about getting other seats. Which I would hate to spend money on.
P.S. I tried the search but couldn't find a similar topic.

Chasing Dreams, see also here:

Originally Posted by Artemis

Seat position is key.

I believe you when you suggest that you toyed already with all sorts of seat positions, but also try to experiment more with 'tilt' (whole seat angle changing). My seat is positioned at its lowest possible position + maximum backwards tilt (knees as high as possible). And when I head for a spirited drive, I move the seat a little closer towards the steering wheel + seat side-bolsters maximum inflated.

I enjoy doing long mountain driving stints (up to 11 hrs consecutive - my wife wants me to be back for dinner and before dark). Just a few stops to take some pictures of the scenery while the car can cool down a little + fuel refill stop. Not getting out the car (or the next day out of bed) like a crippled person.

Manual transmission. As good as 6ft tall (1m80). The fastest way home is a curved one. And as regards stamina Dackelone calls me a "machine".

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Yes... Artemis IS a driving machine, bc he never seems to tire on our travels thru the Alps.

963mw I sometimes get cramps in my left leg too... when I drive my 135i brisk thru the twisty Alps. What I noticed is that it is my seating position... or rather that I am using my left leg to brace myself - as we drive briskly thru the turns. I also drive a manual.

I think the only solution for you is to give me your car - to test my theory out!

Seriously, try positioning your seat differently. When sitting behind the wheel(properly)... your wrists at the 12'O clock position on the wheel should be able to touch the steering wheel. Your shoulders shouldn't move off the seat while turning the wheel. Also your arms should be bent when at the 3 and 9 O'clock positions. Your legs should be bent slightly too.

Dackel

PS: My neck(muscles) also starts to hurt after a few days of driving with our small bunch of friends thru the Alps.