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      03-27-2019, 07:47 PM   #1
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Sunstone metalic can’t have ACC on the new X3M either.

The new X3M ordering guide came out.
I see the M3 can’t have ACC with the Sunstone metalic either.
Sunstone metallic
C1N cannot be ordered with ZDB


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5AT ACC Stop & Go + Active Driving Assistant ZN0 Extended Collision Mitigation
ZDB will delete STD or 100% equipment 5AS

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You will learn to live without the ACC if you really want the color. I have. 🙄
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The new X3M ordering guide came out.
I see the M3 can’t have ACC with the Sunstone metalic either.
Sunstone metallic
C1N cannot be ordered with ZDB


ZDB:
Driving Assistance Plus Package
5AT ACC Stop & Go + Active Driving Assistant ZN0 Extended Collision Mitigation
ZDB will delete STD or 100% equipment 5AS
They built my Sunstone Metalic X5 40i with ACC and is working fine That is very strange !?
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They built my Sunstone Metalic X5 40i with ACC and is working fine That is very strange !?
What the crap!

Oh man I am so freaking mad right now. You must have a recently built car? Mine was built in late October and they told me you could not get ACC without the Drivers Assistant Package. Now it seems you can select it as an option.

I just ran the configurator and it will not let you choose DAP with Sunstone. But you can now find ACC as an option.

I will never buy a car again that is not at least a year into production.

X3M Configurator also shows ACC as an option.

Lesson learned.
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What the crap!

Oh man I am so freaking mad right now. You must have a recently built car? Mine was built in late October and they told me you could not get ACC without the Drivers Assistant Package. Now it seems you can select it as an option.

I just ran the configurator and it will not let you choose DAP with Sunstone. But you can now find ACC as an option.

I will never buy a car again that is not at least a year into production.

X3M Configurator also shows ACC as an option.

Lesson learned.
I believe the issue is having the better 3 KAFAS camera system not ACC
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I believe the issue is having the better 3 KAFAS camera system not ACC
Is that the camera embedded in the bumper as shown in the picture? I was told that it was the paint and the reflection caused as to the reason it was not allowed for Sunstone. Of course I do not believe everything I am told.
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Is that the camera embedded in the bumper as shown in the picture? I was told that it was the paint and the reflection caused as to the reason it was not allowed for Sunstone. Of course I do not believe everything I am told.
No, that's a single KAFAS not the triple
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When you read the post about how collision avoidance saved the bacon, I would be very reluctant to miss out on this safety feature. Houston favors light-colored cars and I'm bored with silver and white, so Sunstone was looking pretty good for me. But, I'll be a model 2021 purschaser, so all may be well.
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When you read the post about how collision avoidance saved the bacon, I would be very reluctant to miss out on this safety feature. Houston favors light-colored cars and I'm bored with silver and white, so Sunstone was looking pretty good for me. But, I'll be a model 2021 purschaser, so all may be well.
Are you saying you need the camera\device IDK in the lower front bumper to have collision avoidance? My car does not have that and I always thought it was only for ACC and nothing else?
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Are you saying you need the camera\device IDK in the lower front bumper to have collision avoidance? My car does not have that and I always thought it was only for ACC and nothing else?
It’s for multiple purpose. Look at the list on the X3M for what was in the ZDB package that was excluded. “Extended Collision Mitigation” is a big option you want to have at any price point. It has already saved my family in a real world situation. That was absolutely a deal breaker for me and now that my wife has seen it work, she wants to sell her Audi A4 for a BMW that has the full system like a X3.
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It’s for multiple purpose. Look at the list on the X3M for what was in the ZDB package that was excluded. “Extended Collision Mitigation” is a big option you want to have at any price point. It has already saved my family in a real world situation. That was absolutely a deal breaker for me and now that my wife has seen it work, she wants to sell her Audi A4 for a BMW that has the full system like a X3.
The X3 doesn't offer the full triple KAFAS system or collision mitigation like our X5 does. It has a decent system but it's not the same so you know.
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The X3 doesn't offer the full triple KAFAS system or collision mitigation like our X5 does. It has a decent system but it's not the same so you know.
Android - what is meant by “triple KAFAS system”? What’s the difference? Asking out of curiousity/interest.
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Android - what is meant by “triple KAFAS system”? What’s the difference? Asking out of curiousity/interest.
It's part of the DA Professional package and allows for more advanced drivers assistance features as noted below

KAFAS Single (mid)
Functions:
• Detection of lanes
• Detection of vehicles
• Detection of persons
• Detection of signs and traffic lights


KAFAS Triple (high)
KAFAS high is equipped with a triple camera with 3 camera lens with different aperture angles of 28°,
52° and 152°. This enables more situations to be recorded with better quality.
Functions:
• Detection of lanes
• Detection of vehicles
• Detection of persons
• Detection of signs and traffic lights
• Detection of stop lines
• Detection of side road boundaries
• Detection of landmarks
• Detection of clearances
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In regards to ACC and it not offered initially for Sunstone Metallic. Seems that all ACC vehicles have to have the component in the lower grill. Are you saying that the High Camera is the reason that ACC is now offered on Sunstone vehicles when is was not last October? Thanks!
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In regards to ACC and it not offered initially for Sunstone Metallic. Seems that all ACC vehicles have to have the component in the lower grill. Are you saying that the High Camera is the reason that ACC is now offered on Sunstone vehicles when is was not last October? Thanks!
No, that is not what I'm saying at all


You CANNOT have the DA Professional features without the KAFAS high period. ACC is independent of the KAFAS high and will with with the mid as seen in the picture someone posted of their Sunstone Metallic above.

I hate being rude but I thought it was pretty straight forward in the posts above.
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I was just wondering why BMW now allows ACC with Sunstone. When at launch they didn’t. In fact when the initial ordering guide came out it allowed ACC with Sunstone. My order had it and when the configurator launched ACC was no longer allowed. I was told that it had to do with the color. Of course this all came out after I took delivery of the car and on the way home I went to use ACC and it was not there. Glad that people can get it now.
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I was just wondering why BMW now allows ACC with Sunstone. When at launch they didn't. In fact when the initial ordering guide came out it allowed ACC with Sunstone. My order had it and when the configurator launched ACC was no longer allowed. I was told that it had to do with the color. Of course this all came out after I took delivery of the car and on the way home I went to use ACC and it was not there. Glad that people can get it now.
It was noted on the ordering guide that ACC wasn't offered with Sunstone Metallic so I'm not sure why people were surprised. The main reason seems to be the KAFAS high has issues with light metallic paints while the mid is fine. BMW also removed the DA package that isn't the Professional option so ACC was offered as a stand alone ie you could add it to the car with Sunstone
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It's part of the DA Professional package and allows for more advanced drivers assistance features as noted below

KAFAS Single (mid)
Functions:
• Detection of lanes
• Detection of vehicles
• Detection of persons
• Detection of signs and traffic lights


KAFAS Triple (high)
KAFAS high is equipped with a triple camera with 3 camera lens with different aperture angles of 28°,
52° and 152°. This enables more situations to be recorded with better quality.
Functions:
• Detection of lanes
• Detection of vehicles
• Detection of persons
• Detection of signs and traffic lights
• Detection of stop lines
• Detection of side road boundaries
• Detection of landmarks
• Detection of clearances
Very helpful! Thank you
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