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      06-21-2019, 07:31 AM   #1
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They got a bit confused with the X7 in the first minute of this video.
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      06-21-2019, 10:59 AM   #3
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When you build up the Touareg to be similarly configured to the X5, it ends up costing more which is interesting.
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      06-21-2019, 11:22 AM   #4
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When you build up the Touareg to be similarly configured to the X5, it ends up costing more which is interesting.
VW doesn't offer the Touareg in the US. They only offer the Tiguan and Atlas and both are underpowered, no comparison to the X5. However, I've seen car brands that lure you in with an attractive price but if you want certain features, you end up thousands above that price and find yourself close to the X5 but of course, its still the "other' brand and not a BMW.
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      06-21-2019, 11:25 AM   #5
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They got a bit confused with the X7 in the first minute of this video.
Ha glad it wasn't just me that did a double take!
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      06-21-2019, 11:31 AM   #6
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VW doesn't offer the Touareg in the US. They only offer the Tiguan and Atlas and both are underpowered, no comparison to the X5. However, I've seen car brands that lure you in with an attractive price but if you want certain features, you end up thousands above that price and find yourself close to the X5 but of course, its still the "other' brand and not a BMW.
Yes I am aware. Since VW was only selling about 3,000 a year, I guess it was to be expected that they would pull it. I went to the UK site for VW and BMW for a fair comparison and did a build of each. You canít get the Atlas there, the closest thing is the Touareg.
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I saw that review, but to be honest, for every person a different car will be the winner, because of different requirements.

I chose the X5, mainly because of the way it drive, and also because it has the best lease option available in South Africa.

I haven't driven the new GLE, as it will only be available towards September, but I don't like the way the newer generation Mercs drive. They feel plasticky and cheap compared to BMW. It is also a bit more expensive, model for model, which is strange, as the previous generations X5 and GLE were very similiar in price.

I didn't consider the Audi, as my local dealer is completely useless when it come to after sales service.
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I think the Audi has a lot of plus points, mainly the incredible way they handle interior space distribution. That said though, the looks are a bit meh and the interior just looks too dated. The X5 has the wow factor which is why I bought it.
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I think the Audi has a lot of plus points, mainly the incredible way they handle interior space distribution. That said though, the looks are a bit meh and the interior just looks too dated. The X5 has the wow factor which is why I bought it.
It has looked that way since the day it was revealed.

It is way too conservative and boxy for a modern day SUV.
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This was definitely one of Matt's fairest and well sorted comparison tests.

Q7's biggest redeeming factor is being able to carry 7 in reasonable comfort. That's it's selling point in this price bracket.

I don't know why the Toureg was included as it was a given that it's a cheaper Q7. VWs in general have premium looking interiors with premium build quality. However their material choice is among the worst in the business. Hard plastic everywhere. It's all screwed together well, but the materials are a huge letdown in any VW.
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      06-22-2019, 06:28 AM   #11
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I don't know why the Toureg was included as it was a given that it's a cheaper Q7. VWs in general have premium looking interiors with premium build quality. However their material choice is among the worst in the business. Hard plastic everywhere. It's all screwed together well, but the materials are a huge letdown in any VW.
Coming from several Touaregs, I can definitely attest to some lower grade materials which they increased in quantity as the model years went on. The first gen had a nice mix of real metal and wood on the dash, but by the third gen the metal was replaced with painted silver plastic. The leather was also really low grade compared to my vernasca leather in the X5. I just liked driving someothat no one else had that was still luxurious and nice riding. I had the only 16 diesel in town!
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Loved that review. Love ALL the reviews on the X5. I bought my X5 pretty much on a whim, with only driving two other cars. I’m still happy about the decision.

The 2020 new-design Toyota and Lexus models are revealed. They look great but pricing not available yet online. Love my highlander, and will def look at Lexus in four years.

I’d love to drive one, but we don’t have a Lexus dealer in my city. Not worth driving two hours to check it out. Maybe in four years our local Toyota dealer will expand into Lexus. I see a TON of Lexus cars in this area, even tho you can’t buy them locally.
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You cannot seriously compare Lexus to BMW. Lexus is just a fancy Toyota.

Great review, X5 left them all in the dust 😀

I would love if they would do a comparison with Cayenne, I think Cayenne us the only real challenger to the X5.
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You cannot seriously compare Lexus to BMW. Lexus is just a fancy Toyota.

Great review, X5 left them all in the dust 😀

I would love if they would do a comparison with Cayenne, I think Cayenne us the only real challenger to the X5.
Iím reasonably certain I saw a cayenne comparison with 2019 X5 on YouTube. Didnít watch it but check it out!
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You cannot seriously compare Lexus to BMW. Lexus is just a fancy Toyota.

Great review, X5 left them all in the dust 😀

I would love if they would do a comparison with Cayenne, I think Cayenne us the only real challenger to the X5.
After driving a BMW for four years, Iíll be interested to see my feelings on driving competing cars. My highlander and the new ones have very fast v6 engines. My old one handles great, and has no repairs in 80,000 miles. And the 2020 tech looks similar to BMW at first glance. Exterior styling is very nice also.

For a long-term car, the Lexus would be much easier to deal with in terms of future repairs. I have a Toyota dealer nearby who could service it, unlike the BMW which is 90 minutes away.

Iím planning to trade at four years when the warranty expires because Iím not sure I trust BMW repairs to be reasonable if I kept it for a long time - we drive all our other cars into the ground, and I donít particularly want a new car every few years.

Also, Iím retired. My accounts are off the charts at the moment, but I know that wonít last. The stock market is paying for this car, but in four years I might not feel as good about taking on perpetual payments (unless the market is so bad, it makes more sense to buy outright).

Lots of factors to consider, but for now I love my BMW, and might decide to become a lifer - hard to say!
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You cannot seriously compare Lexus to BMW. Lexus is just a fancy Toyota.

Great review, X5 left them all in the dust 😀

I would love if they would do a comparison with Cayenne, I think Cayenne us the only real challenger to the X5.
True that....Cayenne & X5 are best choices for enthusiast. C&D just released Q7 / Cayenne comparison (probably tied in with the X5 / GLE comparison). Performance specs showed the Cayenne almost identical to the X5. The X5 was slightly quicker...with same power ratings & higher weight. This again shows the B58 to be great engine since it's driving greater weight with higher fuel efficiency. The Cayenne will have advantage in handling and (IMO) styling, but at SIGNIFICANT price premium. I debated these two for months...bought the X5 & really pleased with my decision. As is my IRA.
Hopefully we'll see a combined X5/GLE/Q7/Cayenne comparison.
Neither will be as trouble free as a Lexus, but I couldn't see myself driving the automotive equivalent of a large-mouthed bass.
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True that....Cayenne & X5 are best choices for enthusiast. C&D just released Q7 / Cayenne comparison (probably tied in with the X5 / GLE comparison). Performance specs showed the Cayenne almost identical to the X5. The X5 was slightly quicker...with same power ratings & higher weight. This again shows the B58 to be great engine since it's driving greater weight with higher fuel efficiency. The Cayenne will have advantage in handling and (IMO) styling, but at SIGNIFICANT price premium. I debated these two for months...bought the X5 & really pleased with my decision. As is my IRA.
Hopefully we'll see a combined X5/GLE/Q7/Cayenne comparison.
Neither will be as trouble free as a Lexus, but I couldn't see myself driving the automotive equivalent of a large-mouthed bass.
Absolutely.

Even my wife commented, after just a short drive, how much more direct the steering was compared to her GLE, and also how much flatter it cornered.

If she could tell the difference after just started driving, it says a lot.
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Coming from several Touaregs, I can definitely attest to some lower grade materials which they increased in quantity as the model years went on. The first gen had a nice mix of real metal and wood on the dash, but by the third gen the metal was replaced with painted silver plastic. The leather was also really low grade compared to my vernasca leather in the X5. I just liked driving someothat no one else had that was still luxurious and nice riding. I had the only 16 diesel in town!
Yup I've noticed the slide in material quality as well. My mom used to work for VW Corporate and can attest to this.

When the outgoing Jetta was unveiled it was panned for its cheap interior. That was the time VW's entire lineup went cheap.
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You cannot seriously compare Lexus to BMW. Lexus is just a fancy Toyota.
This isn't the case for the IS, GS, and LS at least.

I had an RX loaner a couple months ago and it was terrible from somebody used to BMW driving dynamics. Dead steering, mediocre ride quality, handled like a FWD car despite being AWD (poor at hiding its underpinnings). I'm not sure which Toyota the RX is based on but its dynamics aren't differentiated enough.
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Since I'm holding off buying the X5 and after watching this video comparison and knowing the Touareg is not sold here in the US, I thought I would go look at the Atlas. The specs say its underpowered but I needed to know if the engine squirrel was a big or small one, so we went yesterday.

Holy smoly, my wife drove it first, then me, we both think the squirrel is diseased and almost dead. This is a 6 cyl that can't get out of its own exhaust fumes but makes a ton of engine noise trying and speaking of exhaust, check out the pix! Well, ok, I didn't go in expecting it to compete but gotta spend our waiting time doing something car related.
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This is confusing. Aside from the X7 slip up previously mentioned on what was obviously an X5, they did an actual X7 shot 50 seconds in. Do they know what BMW they're actually reviewing here? Among the German "heavy hitters," the Cayenne is missing too.
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Yeah, the X7 slip up both in the narration and video footage is pretty sloppy in my opinion. I really like carwow and Mat Watson, but that was pretty bad.
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