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On the hybrid Cayennes, there is a boost button in the sport chrono dial that wasn't utilized in the race, which was a dumb decision. It gives full ICE and full electric power for 20 seconds. My E Hybrid is a porker though, weighs about 200 lbs more than the Cayenne Turbo and would be about 0.4-0.5 seconds slower 0-60 than an M50i, but I am getting over 30mpg and still enjoying 455hp, so I am happy.
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I agree and disagree with you. I love my F86 and hate the new X6M. My next one, if I stay with BMW, will have to be the X5M.
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Would take the Cayenne all day long as the overall best package, but damn if BMW doesn't offer a hell of a bargain
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This is straightline performance, it isn't indicative at all for the vehicle dynamics. I wonder why everybody keeps doing this dumb irrelevant tests?
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Fascinating thread. BMW owners vs. Porsche fanboys vs. BMW owners who are Porsche fanboys!
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What do you expect to see? The tests are appropriate for these gigantic beasts. I care for neither of these cars but can still appreciate these tests. Nobody buys these cars to track them, they're comfy fast, luxurious family haulers and are practically the same outside of badging and price-points. If you care about driving dynamics why would you buy either of these?
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You mean the most imposing vehicle BMW has ever built. There is no other car in BMW lineup and only few from other franchises for that matter that have its road presence. That is enough to choose it. Thus its attraction
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I gave my Cayenne Turbo report 1.5 years ago when I extensively test drove it against the then new X5 50i M-Sport. Even with 30 years of Porsche 911 ownership I came away from the Cayenne with a Meh impression. In general, BMW way has underestimated their vehicles performance even more than Porsche does.
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Not surprising that the RSQ8 comes last, it is about 25 horsepower less than the X6 and about 300 lbs heavier in curb weight.
I have an RSQ8 and test drove the F95 X5M when I shopped. The Audi is definitely less sharp than the X5/6M, but on the hand, ride comfort and NVH is significantly better than the F95. I chose the RSQ8 in the end based on those characteristics since I am not really going to push either SUV too hard or take them to track. |
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I beg to differ. The Porsche looks the best followed by the BMW. The Audi looks horrible with its forced 'blackface'. Reminds me of late model Silverados. Too ugly to be edgy and too soft to be sporty.
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