[WellsX5]

Hello all, looks like Costco is having a sale on Quick Jacks and I've been wanting one for a while.
Does anyone know if the 5000TL will work or do I need to go to the 7000TL?
Thanks

[GerryC]

Since the published curb weight of your X40i is 4863 lb. and I don't know what may or may not be included - spare tire, full gas tank, other options - you're real close to the 5000 lb. rating of the 5000TL. And if you want to actually get in the car while it's lifted, you'll be over the rated capacity. For safety I'd opt for the 7000TL.

Double check, but I believe you'll also need the frame extensions as the lift points are closer to the 66" of the extensions. The basic lift can handle up to 60" between the lift points.

Gerry

[weinerbarn]

I was going to grab the 6000ELX. I'm waiting for them to go on sale again. The SEMA deal was actually cheaper than Black Friday and the gaf'd my emails and never responded when I tried to get in on the SEMA pricing.

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by weinerbarn

I was going to grab the 6000ELX. I'm waiting for them to go on sale again. The SEMA deal was actually cheaper than Black Friday and the gaf'd my emails and never responded when I tried to get in on the SEMA pricing.

If it fits your cars, that's great. When it comes to something like Quick Jacks, it's about maximizing their utility.

The downside to the 6000ELX is that it just barely fits the X5 and it definitely wouldn't fit under my roadster. I could use the 7000TL on both vehicles with the extensions for the X5.

Gerry

[slicky]

Neither will not work well as they both have a 60" spread. You would need to buy an extension frame extending it to a 66" spread. Even then, you would have to set it up side to side instead of front to back and lift it to the side.
I wouldn't worry about the loading as there the safety factor on these things is x3 plus.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by slicky

Neither will not work well as they both have a 60" spread. You would need to buy an extension frame extending it to a 66" spread. Even then, you would have to set it up side to side instead of front to back and lift it to the side.
I wouldn't worry about the loading as there the safety factor on these things is x3 plus.

Can you explain this in a bit more detail?

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by GerryC

Since the published curb weight of your X40i is 4863 lb. and I don't know what may or may not be included - spare tire, full gas tank, other options - you're real close to the 5000 lb. rating of the 5000TL. And if you want to actually get in the car while it's lifted, you'll be over the rated capacity. For safety I'd opt for the 7000TL.

Double check, but I believe you'll also need the frame extensions as the lift points are closer to the 66" of the extensions. The basic lift can handle up to 60" between the lift points.

Gerry

Thanks Gerry,
Curb weight includes a full tank of gas from what I’ve researched so I should be good with the 5000tl weight , maybe go on a 1/4 tank gas to compensate for my weight..lol
So are the plastic rectangular pieces that protrude downward near the wheel wells the jack points? If so, it may be more than 66” center to each but I’ll have to check again. Extensions are $345 so I’ll be around $1700 if it works.
I’ll never own a heavier vehicle so all good there.
Other vehicle it’s mainly for is 21 Mach 1 , 3800lbs

[-DB-]

i have the 5000SLX and dont have an issue with either X5 and my last Trackhawk

while short to both lift points the front points and pinch weld with the rubbers work fine

I would not try side to side as that just looks like an issue waiting happen.

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by slicky

Neither will not work well as they both have a 60" spread. You would need to buy an extension frame extending it to a 66" spread. Even then, you would have to set it up side to side instead of front to back and lift it to the side.
I wouldn't worry about the loading as there the safety factor on these things is x3 plus.

Why do you say side to side? Is front to back more than 66”?
What serviceability will I lose with side to side?

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by -DB-

i have the 5000SLX and dont have an issue with either X5 and my last Trackhawk

while short to both lift points the front points and pinchweld with the rubbers work fine

I don’t see any pinch welds, just lots of plastic on mine

[jad03060]

Yes, the plastic cup thingies are the lift points for the vehicle. If it came with a jack, the end would fit in that cup. There are aftermarket pucks designed to fit in there so you don't damage the plastic by essentially transferring the load to the supported bottom of the cup.

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by jad03060

Yes, the plastic cup thingies are the lift points for the vehicle. If it came with a jack, the end would fit in that cup. There are aftermarket pucks designed to fit in there so you don't damage the plastic by essentially transferring the load to the supported bottom of the cup.

Seems like the rubber pucks that come with the Quick jack should work fine.

[slicky]

Originally Posted by WellsX5

Why do you say side to side? Is front to back more than 66”?
What serviceability will I lose with side to side?

Yes the x5 lift points spread is longer than 66". 70" I want to say. Not sure on serviceability. It may be a bit awkward to move around underneath.

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by slicky

Yes the x5 lift points spread is longer than 66". 70" I want to say. Not sure on serviceability. It may be a bit awkward to move around underneath.

Main thing I would do is oil changes on the X5 so onto sure if it will effect the drain plug location
For tire rotation should be good

[eelnoraa]

I think for oil change you definitely don’t need quick Jack, right? But I f course if you want it, sure get one. Even with a much lower car, I would be 1/2 way done by the time you setup the quick jack. And my guess is after the first oil change with this, you won’t bother at subsequent oil change.

Even add tire rotation, it still won’t make financial sense. At home you can only swap wheel, you cannot check balance. Personally I recommend going to a shop, have them check balance when wheels come off.

For this to make sense at home, bigger or more often job should be in plan.

[gfeiner97]

Originally Posted by slicky

Neither will not work well as they both have a 60" spread. You would need to buy an extension frame extending it to a 66" spread. Even then, you would have to set it up side to side instead of front to back and lift it to the side.
I wouldn't worry about the loading as there the safety factor on these things is x3 plus.

I came to the same conclusion when investigating quickjack for the G05 x5. I busted out my tape measure. The distance, front to back to center of each jack point is 71 inches on my '22 X5 40i. The sticker on the bottom of the B pillar says the my X5 40i is 6122 lbs. The only quick jack that can handle a 71 inch jack point spread is the 6000ELX but that model only has a 6000lb lift capacity. The FAQ in the manual says not to even slightly exceed the stated capacity:

Q: What if I want to raise a Vehicle that is slightly over the weight capacity of my QuickJack?
A: This is not an intended use of the product. We strongly recommend against trying to raise a Vehicle
that is heavier than the rated capacity of your QuickJack.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by gfeiner97

I came to the same conclusion when investigating quickjack for the G05 x5. I busted out my tape measure. The distance, front to back to center of each jack point is 71 inches on my '22 X5 40i. The sticker on the bottom of the B pillar says the my X5 40i is 6122 lbs. The only quick jack that can handle a 71 inch jack point spread is the 6000ELX but that model only has a 6000lb lift capacity. The FAQ in the manual says not to even slightly exceed the stated capacity:

Q: What if I want to raise a Vehicle that is slightly over the weight capacity of my QuickJack?
A: This is not an intended use of the product. We strongly recommend against trying to raise a Vehicle
that is heavier than the rated capacity of your QuickJack.

That number 6122 is gross weight, max total weight the car is designed for. It is curb weight + all payload ( people and cargo). Curb weight is the net weight of an empty car, which should be 4800ish for 40i

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

I think for oil change you definitely don’t need quick Jack, right? But I f course if you want it, sure get one. Even with a much lower car, I would be 1/2 way done by the time you setup the quick jack. And my guess is after the first oil change with this, you won’t bother at subsequent oil change.

Even add tire rotation, it still won’t make financial sense. At home you can only swap wheel, you cannot check balance. Personally I recommend going to a shop, have them check balance when wheels come off.

For this to make sense at home, bigger or more often job should be in plan.

So for oil changes I’ll probably just use my rhino race ramps that won’t work on my 21 Mach 1 anymore. If it’s a huge pain to use the quick jack.
On the X5 this is mainly for tire rotation, and unless the car feels like it needs it I never get alignments when I rotate tires. When I modify my suspension, that’s a different story. Been all good for 28 years and many cars.
At the end of the day this is more for the Mustang and if it saves me a few hundred $ a year on tire rotations for the X5 or anything else that may occur then it pays for itself IMO.

[slicky]

I agree Quick Jack is very time consuming to setup and is really for bigger projects that justify this time investment. I had big plans for it, but find that I hardly if ever use it.

[eelnoraa]

Agree. I wouldn't say pain to use. Just overkill for the purpose of oil change. For bigger job, it is probably the best jack average home owner can setup at home.

[WellsX5]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

That number 6122 is gross weight, max total weight the car is designed for. It is curb weight + all payload ( people and cargo). Curb weight is the net weight of an empty car, which should be 4800ish for 40i

I figure if I do any work with a 1/4 tank of gas I will be couple hundred less than max weight.
I cannot stand taking my cars to dealerships, they are horrible and a huge waste of time.

[TxT858]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

Can you explain this in a bit more detail?

He means this...