[boi222]

Between these 3 , square setup, which is better? Also, is there a difference between 285 and 295 ?

285/40R20 scorpions
295/40R20 p zero winter
295/40R20 Michelin x ice

Thanks for any advice

[Bimmersurfer]

Originally Posted by boi222

Between these 3 , square setup, which is better? Also, is there a difference between 285 and 295 ?

285/40R20 scorpions
295/40R20 p zero winter
295/40R20 Michelin x ice

Thanks for any advice

i use Michelins 285's.
here is Tire rack testing results for winter tires:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...rOd3yS6M26zbRv

[Dushaine1]

I used P Zero stock size 22" & 21", will be my first winter on them, not to expensive

[boi222]

Originally Posted by Dushaine1

I used P Zero stock size 22" & 21", will be my first winter on them, not to expensive

I dont see them as an option in tire rack , only the 20” square setup. Are you using the stock rims too?

[denaliman]

Dedicated square winter rims and tires Michelin Pilot Alpin 21”.

[boi222]

I assume there is no risk of transfer case issues with the any of the above combos?

I went ahead and ordered the

285/40R20 scorpions

But just reading some forums comments about warranty being denied due to aftermarket tires, I assume the transfer case damage would only happen using incorrect staggered sets ? A square setup should not impact ?

[crabman]

You should be good going square, the tires have the same diameter, so actually better than stock.

[denaliman]

Originally Posted by boi222

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But just reading some forums comments about warranty being denied due to aftermarket tires, I assume the transfer case damage would only happen using incorrect staggered sets ? A square setup should not impact ?

BMW and the dealers are just getting ridiculous with all this warranty denying crap. It's making me consider moving on to another brand. What's next...warranty denied because you use the wrong colour washer fluid?

[MADBMWX5MC]

^Gotta agree--is like being held hostage by the warranty police

[weinerbarn]

Originally Posted by denaliman

What's next...warranty denied because you use the wrong colour washer fluid?

I mean technically they can do this now. There are certain restrictions in the owners manual about not using washer fluid with additives (silicone), etc. I do think they are getting ridiculous as well though ... or very least some overzealous dealers with blanket denials. Not even sure if it's legal but who has the funds to challenge them? Magnuson-Moss covers much of this I believe, especially as it relates to aftermarket parts. I believe it was understood that if you changed exhaust as an example, they wouldn't have to warranty your aftermarket exhaust failure but they could not blanket void your warranty and they would have to prove the aftermarket part damaged the engine as an example.

[crabman]

The law isn't defined by what is written in the owner's manual, it's defined by the laws regarding warranty and other related issues in his area.

In any event, I've pushed one of these all the way. That was a long time ago, but I picked up a few things.

An auto warranty can only be totally voided in a few specific circumstances: Salvage title, odo tampering, so altered as to change the intended use, a few others.

What you typically end up seeing is a denial for a specific coverage. They can do this for a lot of reasons: Improper maintenance, using unsuitable fluids, a failure caused by a third party, the installation of parts which create a condition under which it was not tested and sold, etc.

When your warranty is denied for one issue, it isn't "broken", it remains otherwise intact. So as an example; adding a 75 HP module could be used to deny your power train warranty. You've placed the power train in a condition they did not test and sell, they are not obligated to cover what they did not sell. On that same car, if the power mirrors fail, they're on the hook.

The last principle the Internet usually gets wrong is the beyond a shadow of a doubt thing. In reality, they don't have to do anything other than say the word no, to deny your warranty. I'm not an attorney, but I do know one bit: Possession is 9/10s of the law. You are not in possession of your warranty coverage, to deny it they need only say the words. At that point you can scream and yell, jump up and down, spout Mag/Moss until you run out of breath, means nothing. You're coming out of pocket, or staying broken, until the end of whatever process you end up following to reach a resolution.

My suggestion would be to consult with an attorney if it comes to it. Outside federal law, there are also state laws which may be applicable. A lot of what you read on the Internet in this regard isn't true. Even what I just typed, while at least accurate 20 years ago, may be incorrect now, or not apply in the same way, in other states.

[Dushaine1]

Originally Posted by boi222

I dont see them as an option in tire rack , only the 20” square setup. Are you using the stock rims too?

They sell the stock size on Blackcircles.ca, yes I'm using the stock rims, I bought a second set of stock wheels for winter