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01-30-2010, 05:47 PM | #1 |
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Help with tire widths! (VMR's + Vredestein's)
I'm looking to get a set of wheels/tires for my E92 currently on stock sport suspension.
Right now, I'm leaning towards a set of VMR V710 wheels which run in sizes 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 (as everyone knows..). For tires, I'm looking at Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's (or possibly Hankook V12's but ignore that for now). Now my problem is I have no idea what width tires I should be running for these wheels. I don't want any major rubbing issues as this is going on a daily driver, but I want the look of a wide tire. I don't want a stretched look. I have read that the Vred's run a little wide but have a slightly rounded sidewall. With that said, what tires sizes should I be running for the front and rear? What is the "standard" for 19x8.5 and 9.5 wheels? I was thinking 245/35R19 for the fronts and 275/30R19 for the rears. Are these sizes too aggressive considering the Vred's run wide? Last edited by shoes; 01-30-2010 at 06:05 PM.. |
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How about looking into the Yokohama AD08s instead?
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(I think you mean 235/265) Tread wear is keeping me from Yokohama AD08s. Looking for something more cost effective on a daily driver (need em to last). |
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01-30-2010, 06:52 PM | #4 |
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Here's pics of my car with those tires in 235 and 265 on 8.5" and 9.5" wide 19" wheels.
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01-30-2010, 07:00 PM | #5 |
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Thanks for the pics remmib!
I have a few questions for you if you don't mind answering: Was there any tire stretch on those wheels? Did you have any issues with rubbing? Do you think you could have run a size up in widths without issues? How did you like/dislike them? Thanks! |
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My offset is ET35 front and ET32 rear, and they have never rubbed what so ever. I think I could have run 245/275 on my car without issues. And I liked those tires very much.
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I read somewhere that the Vred's run a little wide so I'm kind of confused what sizes to go with. Either 235/265 or 245/275. I don't want to be rubbing and I don't want to be stretching or overly bulging... What should I do? Its difficult finding information on these tires. |
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http://www.vredestein.com/Onlineadvi...ersessionID=73 I just had a set (235/265) put on a few days ago and had some question on optimal tire pressure - they responded with answers and suggestions within 24 hours. Haven't had a chance to go out and really test the tires out yet but so far dry grip seems pretty good. Good luck ps. Forget about contacting through their US link - I tried and got an undeliverable message...
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Thanks for the response cadthis.
What size wheels are you running? How wide? The pic looks just how I want it; no stretch, minimal bulge. Do you have a shot of the rear as well? Thanks! |
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Fronts - 235/35/19 on 8.5, and 265/30/19 on 9.5 rears.
Sorry don't have photos of the rear... Here's another one of the front: All tires were under inflated - installer had both fronts and rears at about 36psi (he said for comfort)... They felt a little soft on my drive home, that prompted my question on correct tire pressure. When I wrote Vredestein for suggestions, their Tech Dept. recommended 41psi for the fronts and 48psi for the rears (calculated for maximum load). Still haven't been to the gas station to pump them up yet...
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01-30-2010, 10:35 PM | #13 |
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cadthis, would you agree that the tire is pretty flush with the wheel in person? They look like it from the pics but I can't see from different angles like you can. Haha.
And would you say the the rear tire is as flush to the wheel as the fronts are? Thanks again! |
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01-31-2010, 06:49 AM | #14 |
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Here someone who has 245/35 and 275/35 on 8.5 and 9.5 on a M3.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346471
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It looks and works great on the M3, but do you think it will work on the 335i? Can someone with more experience than me guesstimate whether or not the look of those tires on the M3 will rub or cause problems on an E92 335i on the OEM suspension? What about with a moderate drop? EDIT: OK I found a cool calculator thing that has helped me better understand the differences between the sizes. It can be found here if anyone is interested. FRONT: 235 vs. 245 REAR: 265 vs. 275 Given that info, can anyone help my questions above? Last edited by shoes; 01-31-2010 at 03:58 PM.. |
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I am sure a 245 would work with proper offsets, however, I am more concerned with finding an appropriately matched rear tire in a similar overall diameter. I would love to have a 245 up front but I cant seem to get a similar o.d. 275. Based on that, the 235/35/19 and the 275/30/19 are the way I will go. Otherwise, the front tires end up being quite a bit taller (relatively speaking) than the rears. |
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But honestly, would one be able to tell driving on the street? I'm not sure. Maybe on a track... |
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The understeer is a good consideration. I dont expect it will make much of a difference on the street - if it does, I can play with my suspension/sway bar settings. Historically, I would never base a tire decision on cosmetics, but 275's on a sedan will look amazing, imo. I have 18" with R-compounds for solo racing so this will just be for street where any extra understeer shouldn't be much of an issue...
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I see that the VMR V710 is 19x8.5 ET35 and 19x9.5 ET33. I think 245 in the front is okay, but 275 with ET33, might cause slight rubbing on an e92.
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Are you taking into account the fact that the Vred's have a rounded sidewall when you say this? The 275's on a 19x9.5 simply give the tire a more squared look, eliminating the rounded sidewall, but not really bulging much beyond that. Please refer to these pics: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346471 The way I'm looking at it is, stock, in the rear I'm running an 18x8.5 on a 255 if I'm not mistaken. Since 10mm is very roughly ~.5 an inch, each half-inch increase in wheel-width should mean one tire-width size up - and since I'm increasing wheel-width by one full inch (to a 9.5), shouldn't I up-size the tire width twice? Also, if I'm running a 255 on an 8.5" in the rear stock, logically, shouldn't I be running that in the front when I put a 19x8.5 up there? I completely understand that some of these sizes will just not work on the E92, but am I correct in my thinking? Last edited by shoes; 01-31-2010 at 07:42 PM.. |
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i currently have this identical question...for the same tires...and I have 235/265 right now
been pondering 245/275, but im positive 275 requires rolling rear fenders...question is, how much (refer to billspreston who had morr vs8s with ET30 offset rear and 275 tires)
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ok a 245/275 will fit fine, your offests are manageable for this set up. Even with a moderate drop, like 1.3" or so. So dont worry
I would do a 235/275 though. so no worries up front, with a drop it will be clean, and the rear will be perfect. just my .02 |
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