Meth Question. can I run Meth straight without water?

Boost Meister · 05-31-2011, 11:02 PM

Can I run straight meth daily without any water mixed in. What is the downside to it if any? my dd map is at 16PSI

Forcefed3 · 05-31-2011, 11:11 PM

What failsafe do you have?

Boost Meister · 05-31-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

What failsafe do you have?

Snow Performance Failsafe

I have the SP Stage 3 kit

Boost Meister · 05-31-2011, 11:58 PM

??

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-01-2011, 12:07 AM

You can. You might find some parts failing like composite fittings or some failsafes and other hardware down the road.

I run about 90% mixture. In the course of 12K miles I ate one labonte fail safe (in about a day LOL) and 2 fittings.

I heard the snow performance fail safe holds atleast 70/30 mix well.

Boost Meister · 06-01-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

You can. You might find some parts failing like composite fittings or some failsafes and other hardware down the road.

I run about 90% mixture. In the course of 12K miles I ate one labonte fail safe (in about a day LOL) and 2 fittings.

I heard the snow performance fail safe holds atleast 70/30 mix well.

What about taking the failsafe off. I am sure I will have no problem with just using the controller.

cocoturkey · 06-01-2011, 01:27 AM

I have been runing 100% meth on labonte system for 2 yrs. i haven't had any problem so far....

tscdennab · 06-01-2011, 02:08 AM

I have seen an exploded intake manifold because of the 100% meth. My opinion is that if you need to run 100% meth in order for the car to run well it means you are not tuned correctly for the car's hardware.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 06-01-2011, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

I have seen an exploded intake manifold because of the 100% meth. My opinion is that if you need to run 100% meth in order for the car to run well it means you are not tuned correctly for the car's hardware.

Also, it should be considered whether it is a good idea to have a liquid with such a low ignition point in your potentially very hot engine bay. A small accident or leak and BOOM you got a big bonfire where your car was previously.

Which is why I would always mix some water into it - you never know what may happen.

Alpina_B3_Lux

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-01-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boost Meister

What about taking the failsafe off. I am sure I will have no problem with just using the controller.

At that point you need to worry about the safety as 100% meth is extremely flammable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cocoturkey

I have been runing 100% meth on labonte system for 2 yrs. i haven't had any problem so far....

You're one of the lucky ones

GeorgeSmooth · 06-01-2011, 12:13 PM

Since we on the subject and Labonte was mentioned are they still around? I get zero response from my emails to them.

BerkTechnology · 06-01-2011, 12:47 PM

100% meth is extremely dangerous and I advise strongly against it. It is very corrosive, highly flammable, when it burns the flames are invisible, highly toxic, and meth kits are not designed with all of the safety features of a fuel system. From a safety perspective it's like transporting gasoline in a 7-11 Big Gulp cup.

In a word... no don't do it. The huge risks are not worth the small added benefit IMO.

Boost Meister · 06-01-2011, 01:32 PM

I guess I will keep running 95%. meth

dzenno · 06-01-2011, 01:38 PM

Really hard to talk to about meth mixes....you need to log your car starting with 50/50 and adjust depending on your nozzle size (volume injected)...

as for me personally, the absolute ideal way of doing this is to inject 100% water with say an M3 nozzle (smallest nozzle available, about 200ml/min max) for charge cooling, to prevent IAT induced knock/timing retard and upgrade the fuel system to support enough fuel for the turbos...I'd LOVE to get rid of meth entirely but can't at the moment as its needed for fueling which sucks

Boost Meister · 06-01-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Really hard to talk to about meth mixes....you need to log your car starting with 50/50 and adjust depending on your nozzle size (volume injected)...

as for me personally, the absolute ideal way of doing this is to inject 100% water with say an M3 nozzle (smallest nozzle available, about 200ml/min max) for charge cooling, to prevent IAT induced knock/timing retard and upgrade the fuel system to support enough fuel for the turbos...I'd LOVE to get rid of meth entirely but can't at the moment as its needed for fueling which sucks

I am with you. I wish someone would develop a fuel system for our cars.

onefastman · 06-01-2011, 05:46 PM

I have run about 100 gallons with a cm10 at 100% zero issues other than my flow sensor bit the dust a while ago.

I have steel line for safety.

It has propelled me to a 12.02 @119.5MPH

onefastman · 06-01-2011, 05:47 PM

Also road race with it.

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