[mase]

Hey guys,

got an unlocked Procede V4/V5 Professional for sale..

Price lowered - asking $575 free shipping paypal gift.

Power delivery is super smooth, upgradable to the latest maps for free.

Thanks!

[mase]

that's us dollars by the way. or 667 Australian dollars obo

[mase]

nobody wants more horsepower?? add 60-70hp on a stock car, and up to 160hp on a car with full bolt ons..

[pcockley]

Originally Posted by mase

nobody wants more horsepower?? add 60-70hp on a stock car, and up to 160hp on a car with full bolt ons..

JB4 FTW

[mase]

Originally Posted by pcockley

JB4 FTW

lol... I used to have a JB4.. but for the protection of my engine and for a more refined tune, I got the Procede. That's sort of been the consensus for most for the past year or two.

[pcockley]

Originally Posted by mase

lol... I used to have a JB4.. but for the protection of my engine and for a more refined tune, I got the Procede. That's sort of been the consensus for most for the past year or two.

Sounds like the usual crap to me. Oh my tunes better than yours.....

Protectionof my engine = crap
More refined tune = crap

I am sure there are as many on both sides and only a fool would say one is better for those reasons. Kinda like me saying JB4 better cause it's got steering wheel controls

[mase]

haha.. it's nothing like that. I've had the JB3, JB4, Procede V4, Procede V5, and Cobb Stage I. I'm not in any fanclub or anything, but I do feel that the JB4 is pretty crude in its implementation.

[Sparky66]

I have to agree with Mase. JB products are nothing more than glorified boost controllers.
A product that has no effect on timing is hardly a tune.
Procede controls all it's Canbus functions via the cruise control stick.
It's a more complete product with better integration (speed delimited, o2 sim for catless DP's, timing control, Meth injection control,etc....).
Someone who has tried both can attest that the Procede felt smoother and more responsive from traffic cruising speeds. Top end both tunes were inseperable.
To top it off, you can't beat the local support.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

OP fwiw I paid 550AUD delivered for my Procede V5 (second hand)

If you want to adjust your price a little, I'll let my friend know who is interested in a new tune.

[mase]

price is negotiable!

[pcockley]

Originally Posted by Sparky66

I have to agree with Mase. JB products are nothing more than glorified boost controllers.
A product that has no effect on timing is hardly a tune.
Procede controls all it's Canbus functions via the cruise control stick.
It's a more complete product with better integration (speed delimited, o2 sim for catless DP's, timing control, Meth injection control,etc....).
Someone who has tried both can attest that the Procede felt smoother and more responsive from traffic cruising speeds. Top end both tunes were inseperable.
To top it off, you can't beat the local support.

I have read heaps on both and IMO produce the same results.

I appreciate the v5 has timing control, but I would prefer the BMW factory settings. Apart from speed delimit, I don't see no benefit over the jb4

[Sparky66]

That's your call, but you forgot one important thing..... the "BMW factory settings" target for "Factory" based boost targets, which if I'm correct - we are not running on.
All things being equal on both tunes, the JB relies on successive knock events at raised boost before retarding any timing. So in effect it listens for knock then responds to adjust timing. The Procede on the other hand, pro-actively retards timing based on the requested boost target. Less knock does make it a 'safer' tune.

[pcockley]

Originally Posted by Sparky66

That's your call, but you forgot one important thing..... the "BMW factory settings" target for "Factory" based boost targets, which if I'm correct - we are not running on.
All things being equal on both tunes, the JB relies on successive knock events at raised boost before retarding any timing. So in effect it listens for knock then responds to adjust timing. The Procede on the other hand, pro-actively retards timing based on the requested boost target. Less knock does make it a 'safer' tune.

Knock, wtf were not running crappy 91 gas there is no knock. There is a big difference between timing and boost, they are not tied together as you suggest or some marketing suggests.

[WOPALX]

Originally Posted by pcockley

Knock, wtf were not running crappy 91 gas there is no knock. There is a big difference between timing and boost, they are not tied together as you suggest or some marketing suggests.

Knock can be obtain related, insufficient fuel, bad spark plug, dodgy fuel injector lots of causes.

The principles of tuning a turbo car imply that you adjust the 3 main inputs to making power, these are;

Fuel
Boost
Timing

Adjusting only 2 of these is not tuning, it's just relying on the factory system for the 3rd being over engineered enough to withstand the abuse.

Keep in mind early N54's came with forged pistons. Newer ones & N55's not so. So the earlier engines are probably a bit stronger and able to withstand the abuse.

[mase]

back to the topic at hand.. I'm taking offers on my unlocked PROcede. send them

[TEMPTN]

Were ru located mase

[mase]

california. I'll cover shipping.

[mase]

Price lowered.. $625 OBO

[mase]

$575 free shipping paypal gift.. anyone?