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      08-30-2011, 04:41 PM   #1
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tires what to do what to do

i have a 335i all stock and im starting to go tracking more and more and i need new tires im looking on keeping stock wheels (sport package 189s)

im looking at the pilot super sports or star specs

both 225/40-18 (Front)
255/35-18 (Rear)
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      08-30-2011, 07:28 PM   #2
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i have a 335i all stock and im starting to go tracking more and more and i need new tires im looking on keeping stock wheels (sport package 189s)

im looking at the pilot super sports or star specs

both 225/40-18 (Front)
255/35-18 (Rear)
I'd get a dedicated wheel/tire setup.

1. You're going to chew up your track tires fast, save your street tires for the street
2. 189s are heavy!
3. Square setup will reduce oversteer and provide more balance than staggered.
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      08-30-2011, 08:33 PM   #3
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i have a 335i all stock and im starting to go tracking more and more and i need new tires im looking on keeping stock wheels (sport package 189s)

im looking at the pilot super sports or star specs

both 225/40-18 (Front)
255/35-18 (Rear)
I'd get a dedicated wheel/tire setup.

1. You're going to chew up your track tires fast, save your street tires for the street
2. 189s are heavy!
3. Square setup will reduce oversteer and provide more balance than staggered.
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You could run 18x8.5 square and 255/35 all around too.
I'm running 255/35 up front with no rubbing at all.
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I'd get a dedicated wheel/tire setup.

1. You're going to chew up your track tires fast, save your street tires for the street
2. 189s are heavy!
3. Square setup will reduce oversteer and provide more balance than staggered.
Totally agree, I just went the square route with 17 x 9 Apex ARC-8's all around. The wheels are light, high quality and relatively cheap. I also went with DOT-R's (NT-01's), but I would hold off on that for now until you're really comfortable in the car. More grip means more speed and you have to be ready to deal with everything coming at you much faster...it takes a season or 2 in my opinion.

Since I have PS2's and SS's on for street tires and have tracked with them, I'll say they are quite nice. For the money though, going with R'S-3's or Direzzas makes more sense IMO...
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      09-01-2011, 10:59 AM   #5
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I'd get a dedicated wheel/tire setup.

1. You're going to chew up your track tires fast, save your street tires for the street
2. 189s are heavy!
3. Square setup will reduce oversteer and provide more balance than staggered.
Wouldn't a square setup reduce understeer?




...this is just my opinion...

I would probably hold off on buying R spec tires as they might hide some other mistakes being made on the track. The first upgrade you might want to look into would be suspension, either coil overs or MAYBE sways. (Sways without a LSD might be a little sketchy). If you get sways first, you can dial out a fair amount of the cars natural understeer. Good coilovers can help you dial in the suspension just the way you like it. What you might even want to do is get the coilovers and get them good and dialed in, then take them to your trusted suspension guy and have them revalved so that your perfect setting becomes the "midway" point on all the adjustments. Just a thought.

Once you've done that, then you could probably look into killer R tires. Listen to what meepster said, it's good advice.

For now, you could get a pair of rear 189's and run 4 of them in a square setup on the track until you're ready to start adding more things. Trust me, you will get hooked and you will start adding more things. It can't be helped, accept this as it is undeniable. ;-)

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yes, typo. thanks for catching it.
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yes, typo. thanks for catching it.

No problem, I thought I was missing something.

Any chance you'll be at Watkins Glen for the HPDE this month?
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I love my PSS. I only track about 5 times a year, so I couldn't justify purchasing a seperate set of wheels/tires for dedicated track use. So if this is your situation, I would highly recommend them.
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No problem, I thought I was missing something.

Any chance you'll be at Watkins Glen for the HPDE this month?
Nope, I was at the Glen in July, going to Pocono IMSA with PCA RTR this month and probably Thunderbolt with PCA Schat in Oct.

Are you going with CCA or PCA?
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Nope, I was at the Glen in July, going to Pocono IMSA with PCA RTR this month and probably Thunderbolt with PCA Schat in Oct.

Are you going with CCA or PCA?
I'm going with CCA.

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You could run 18x8.5 square and 255/35 all around too.
I'm running 255/35 up front with no rubbing at all.
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That's what I'm running on now. And I'm on Yokohama AD08.
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Would be great if someone could compare the Dunlop SS to the Hankook RS 3.
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