C63 Estate opinions please

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 11:29 AM

Ever since hearing the Merc 6.3 engine I've wanted one and now have an itch for a C63 Estate. Test driving a couple tomorrow. One in silver and one in black. What's peoples views and anything I should be aware of. I know it's a BMW forum but seen a few Merc owners here. Bored with the diesel and want more power so this seemed logical as I need an estate.

TMP · 03-09-2012, 11:45 AM

Errr that's a tough one..... just buy it

Bungle009 · 03-09-2012, 11:48 AM

Best sounding engine I have heard without spending £££,£££

nicktyler · 03-09-2012, 12:05 PM

Awesome car if you own an oil refinery!

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 12:16 PM

Was a thought and put me off an M5 Touring TBH but I don't do a lot of miles and rarely get over 30mpg from the 330d as it is so was thinking it wouldn't be too bad

dxb335d · 03-09-2012, 12:20 PM

It will be an awesome machine. Get a black one!!! (the C63)

My old man has a M5 touring and they are rare as rocking horse poo. He loves it & so do I.

There is something special about fast estates. I loved the B5 RS4 avant when it came out!!

I think you will only get 16-20mpg though!

F31-340i · 03-09-2012, 12:37 PM

I had a craving for one of these yesterday in Bremen. Buy the black one.

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 12:41 PM

Thanks guys, the black one is Obsidian black, does look mean, my only concern is I am on my third E91 all of which have been black but if it is the best colour, black it is

dxb335d · 03-09-2012, 12:43 PM

What rimmage? It needs the multispokes in my onion.

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 12:54 PM

19", don't know the proper name but it is that multi spoke look.

dxb335d · 03-09-2012, 01:03 PM

YEAH, THE 18" star ones do not look as good.

sheps · 03-09-2012, 01:04 PM

If you drive it anywhere near its potential you won't get near a 20mpg average. Mine, which includes got a lot of motorway schlepping is sat at 16.9mpg average over the last 20k miles. If you're really shoving along (on your own, country lanes etc) expect circa 12.
Make sure the car you buy has the limited slip diff option - they sPend too much time lighting one wheel up, otherwise.

Hotcoupe · 03-09-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sheps

Mine, which includes got a lot of motorway schlepping is sat at 16.9mpg average over the last 20k miles. If you're really shoving along (on your own, country lanes etc) expect circa 12.

Fecking hell Simon!

I would suggest having a petrol tanker on permanent tow,but I guess the extra weight and unsympathetic aerodynamics of the tanker would only exacerbate the unquenchable thirst of the car!

Your fuel card must need replacing mthly with the wear and tear

ed335d · 03-09-2012, 01:25 PM

I had a drive in one (saloon) around the MBW track at Brooklands.

While I can't deny that they sound absolutely fucking lovely, I found it a bit boring (too smooth and sanitised for my liking). Having said that, I was only in it for a few laps, so didn't get a really good feel for it, but first impressons count.

I've seen what Si's posted about tyres and MPG, so that's put me off too. When I first heard one (probably Andrew's when we went carting near Cambridge), I thought 'gotta have one', now I probably wouldn't.

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ed335d

I had a drive in one (saloon) around the MBW track at Brooklands.

While I can't deny that they sound absolutely fucking lovely, I found it a bit boring (too smooth and sanitised for my liking). Having said that, I was only in it for a few laps, so didn't get a really good feel for it, but first impressons count.

I've seen what Si's posted about tyres and MPG, so that's put me off too. When I first heard one (probably Andrew's when we went carting near Cambridge), I thought 'gotta have one', now I probably wouldn't.

Its a good point about the LSD, feel the lack of one in the 330d and that 'only' has 245hp. I need an estate which is what drew me to this. If not a C63 is the Audi equivalent any better? The S4 isnt as fast and I think the new RS4 isnt out until the end of the year.

rogerxp · 03-09-2012, 01:47 PM

My thoughts are that if you're only occassionally getting above 30mpg in a 330d your mpg in an AMG will be fookin dire. I mean, I drove my 330d (E90) like I stole it permanently, and managed an average of 32mpg, no chance I'd consider an AMG with my heavy right foot as the mpg would be eye-watering and take away the pleasure of it. I'd be very careful before jumping in and think about the running costs.

I currently average 18.?mpg now and even with my low mileage does start to grate after a while.

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerxp

My thoughts are that if you're only occassionally getting above 30mpg in a 330d your mpg in an AMG will be fookin dire. I mean, I drove my 330d (E90) like I stole it permanently, and managed an average of 32mpg, no chance I'd consider an AMG with my heavy right foot as the mpg would be eye-watering and take away the pleasure of it. I'd be very careful before jumping in and think about the running costs.

Good advice but I was thinking with more power I would not drive it so hard and therefore the mpg wouldnt be too bad or am I kidding myself

rogerxp · 03-09-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chris330D

Good advice but I was thinking with more power I would not drive it so hard and therefore the mpg wouldnt be too bad or am I kidding myself

You my friend, are delusional, much like I am when I'm wanting to buy a stupid car

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So, you ready with your deposit then

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chris330D · 03-09-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerxp

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris330D

Good advice but I was thinking with more power I would not drive it so hard and therefore the mpg wouldnt be too bad or am I kidding myself

You my friend, are delusional, much like I am when I'm wanting to buy a stupid car

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So, you ready with your deposit then

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LOL the only sensible thing I have done is get two dealers interested in me and made them know I am dealing with another

. Apart from that yes, I can see a deposit going down

phil200tdi · 03-09-2012, 02:51 PM

How does it not have an LSD as standard? Crazy!

JLR1969 · 03-09-2012, 02:51 PM

Depends on the age of the car but if it has suede on the sides of the steering wheel then I think that means its got the performance pack which includes the LSD.

Probably need to confirm this though.

All Andrews cars had the LSD and suede steering wheel sides, I remember he used to moan that the suede was wearing out, must have had a few replaced under warranty.

I think he just drove to fast and held on too tight LOL

chris330D · 03-09-2012, 02:59 PM

Does seem odd not have an LSD with that much power?

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chris330D Major 36 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sussex, UK iTrader: (0)	Was a thought and put me off an M5 Touring TBH but I don't do a lot of miles and rarely get over 30mpg from the 330d as it is so was thinking it wouldn't be too bad
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chris330D Major 36 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sussex, UK iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys, the black one is Obsidian black, does look mean, my only concern is I am on my third E91 all of which have been black but if it is the best colour, black it is
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sheps Colonel 73 Rep 2,396 Posts Drives: C63 AMG Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cambs, UK iTrader: (2)	If you drive it anywhere near its potential you won't get near a 20mpg average. Mine, which includes got a lot of motorway schlepping is sat at 16.9mpg average over the last 20k miles. If you're really shoving along (on your own, country lanes etc) expect circa 12. Make sure the car you buy has the limited slip diff option - they sPend too much time lighting one wheel up, otherwise. __________________ Gone but not forgotten: 325i M Sport (E92), Black Sapphire, Coral Red Dakota, 19" 225's, Seat Heating, 6FL and de-badge Replaced by 6.2 litres of AMG powered C class.
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ed335d Major General 141 Rep 6,912 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Surrey, UK iTrader: (3)	I had a drive in one (saloon) around the MBW track at Brooklands. While I can't deny that they sound absolutely fucking lovely, I found it a bit boring (too smooth and sanitised for my liking). Having said that, I was only in it for a few laps, so didn't get a really good feel for it, but first impressons count. I've seen what Si's posted about tyres and MPG, so that's put me off too. When I first heard one (probably Andrew's when we went carting near Cambridge), I thought 'gotta have one', now I probably wouldn't. __________________ E92 M3, Jerez Black, Fox Red Novillo, 19'' M Double Spoke, folding mirrors, lumbar support, front seat heating, PDC, USB, DAB, EDC, Bluetooth, Logic 7, High Gloss Shadowline, big smile
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JLR1969 Major General 1882 Rep 7,000 Posts Drives: Kubota GR1600 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: England iTrader: (1)	Depends on the age of the car but if it has suede on the sides of the steering wheel then I think that means its got the performance pack which includes the LSD. Probably need to confirm this though. All Andrews cars had the LSD and suede steering wheel sides, I remember he used to moan that the suede was wearing out, must have had a few replaced under warranty. I think he just drove to fast and held on too tight LOL
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chris330D Major 36 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sussex, UK iTrader: (0)	Does seem odd not have an LSD with that much power?
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