Now,What did i do...

Wisco_xi · 03-12-2012, 04:59 PM

went and got my car dynoed by a local shop one day, was impressed by the power i put down with jb4 intercooler and intake and dp 360whp. everything was good next day i was messin around with a friend of mine after he got his new car. evo 8 E85 tuned bolt ons 29psi,putting down 410 to the wheels. we did a couple pulls had our fun( lost everytime exept from a stop :/. drove home no problems. but today i get into my car start it up began to drive and noticed alot of smoke coming from my exhaust. First thing that came to mind was turbo. it only blows smoke when on acceleration. and smokes at a stop after driving. it dosent stink like burning oil but it may be. is there anything else it could be other then a blown turbo.
from research i see a couple diff numbers on turbo swaps from BMW one was over 3,000 and the other 1,800.
Any help would be great

Wisco_xi · 03-12-2012, 05:01 PM

i dont seem to have loss of psi or power.

Syndicategt · 03-12-2012, 05:07 PM

Blew a turbo bearing seal. You won't have loss in power, it's just going to leak oil into your hot turbos and blow out smoke. Eventually they will fail due to lack of lubrication or seize up entierly. I drove around for a while with a bad seal, but eventually bought some RB's. Time for you to either a) purchase a used set of turbos from someone upgraded theirs b) but new OEM from Tischer c) upgrade to some Rob Becks, ASR, Shiv's Single, etc.

Wisco_xi · 03-12-2012, 05:09 PM

thanks for the info ive been searching for RB turbos, thought that stood for Re-buildt turbos, thanks for clearing it up.

E90SoFlo · 03-12-2012, 05:17 PM

Rb is Rob Beck (i believe) is the owner of the company that makes them.

marv85 · 03-12-2012, 05:22 PM

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Rb is Rob Beck (i believe) is the owner of the company that makes them.

+1, he sold his last set. The wait is a couple of weeks. Definitely worth it though

16M4 · 03-12-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisco_xi

thanks for the info ive been searching for RB turbos, thought that stood for Re-buildt turbos, thanks for clearing it up.

Wisco_xi · 03-20-2012, 08:27 PM

bmw just quoted me $5,200 to replace the turbos.

E90SoFlo · 03-20-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisco_xi

bmw just quoted me $5,200 to replace the turbos.

Now you will listen to us

Wisco_xi · 03-20-2012, 08:39 PM

haha does anyone think i need to change both turbos or just one? can i just change the seals? and last thing im blowing smoke out of my drivers side exhaust pipe is that front or rear turbo?

E90SoFlo · 03-20-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisco_xi

haha does anyone think i need to change both turbos or just one? can i just change the seals? and last thing im blowing smoke out of my drivers side exhaust pipe is that front or rear turbo?

If you're going to spend 6 grand on turbo's buy RB's.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-20-2012, 09:29 PM

New OEM Turbos from Tischer are bout 650.00 I believe. If changing turbos I would do both. If it was me I would get the RB Turbos especially if you are going to mod the car more.

Mike

Wisco_xi · 03-20-2012, 09:37 PM

whats the cost? does anyone know the labor time on an xi?

Eric335 · 03-20-2012, 09:58 PM

always wondered that, how much is it to replace turbos? if parts are only 650, it must be a ton of work...

zerep1 · 03-20-2012, 10:14 PM

its like 15hr of labor

nafoo · 03-20-2012, 11:10 PM

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its like 15hr of labor

A good Indy shop can do it in 8-10 hrs.

zerep1 · 03-20-2012, 11:19 PM

the time it actually takes and time charged are too different things at the dealership

blisstik · 03-20-2012, 11:22 PM

Did you warm up the car prior to dynos?

vasillalov · 03-21-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

New OEM Turbos from Tischer are bout 650.00 I believe. If changing turbos I would do both. If it was me I would get the RB Turbos especially if you are going to mod the car more.

Mike

$650 EACH! That's $1300 for the pair...

marv85 · 03-21-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vasillalov

$650 EACH! That's $1300 for the pair...

yup they're at 1270$... If I have to change turbos and pay the labor cost, might as well get RBs

Wisco_xi · 03-21-2012, 10:32 AM

whats the cost on rb turbos? all i have seen were in the 3,00 range then expect another 1,500 in labor so im i looking at 5 k for rb turbos installed?

Syndicategt · 03-21-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisco_xi

whats the cost on rb turbos? all i have seen were in the 3,00 range then expect another 1,500 in labor so im i looking at 5 k for rb turbos installed?

Yep! Don't forget about $400 in hardware (bolts, studs, gaskets, lines) if you want to use new oil lines. My RB install, all said and done, was roughly $5,500. Knowing what I know now, I would have done the turbo install myself, it's not very difficult.....just time consuming.

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Syndicategt Brigadier General 155 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Blew a turbo bearing seal. You won't have loss in power, it's just going to leak oil into your hot turbos and blow out smoke. Eventually they will fail due to lack of lubrication or seize up entierly. I drove around for a while with a bad seal, but eventually bought some RB's. Time for you to either a) purchase a used set of turbos from someone upgraded theirs b) but new OEM from Tischer c) upgrade to some Rob Becks, ASR, Shiv's Single, etc. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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Wisco_xi Private First Class 3 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2007 Bmw 335xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wisconsin dells wi iTrader: (0)	thanks for the info ive been searching for RB turbos, thought that stood for Re-buildt turbos, thanks for clearing it up. __________________ AR~~~Injen~~~BMS~~~~Hks~~~~ETS~~~~~Mtech~~~~~Helix ~~~~~Bimmian~~~~Vorsteiner~~~~~WeissLicht~~~~
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Wisco_xi Private First Class 3 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2007 Bmw 335xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wisconsin dells wi iTrader: (0)	bmw just quoted me $5,200 to replace the turbos. __________________ AR~~~Injen~~~BMS~~~~Hks~~~~ETS~~~~~Mtech~~~~~Helix ~~~~~Bimmian~~~~Vorsteiner~~~~~WeissLicht~~~~
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Wisco_xi Private First Class 3 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2007 Bmw 335xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wisconsin dells wi iTrader: (0)	haha does anyone think i need to change both turbos or just one? can i just change the seals? and last thing im blowing smoke out of my drivers side exhaust pipe is that front or rear turbo? __________________ AR~~~Injen~~~BMS~~~~Hks~~~~ETS~~~~~Mtech~~~~~Helix ~~~~~Bimmian~~~~Vorsteiner~~~~~WeissLicht~~~~
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Wisco_xi Private First Class 3 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2007 Bmw 335xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wisconsin dells wi iTrader: (0)	whats the cost? does anyone know the labor time on an xi? __________________ AR~~~Injen~~~BMS~~~~Hks~~~~ETS~~~~~Mtech~~~~~Helix ~~~~~Bimmian~~~~Vorsteiner~~~~~WeissLicht~~~~
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Wisco_xi Private First Class 3 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2007 Bmw 335xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wisconsin dells wi iTrader: (0)	whats the cost on rb turbos? all i have seen were in the 3,00 range then expect another 1,500 in labor so im i looking at 5 k for rb turbos installed? __________________ AR~~~Injen~~~BMS~~~~Hks~~~~ETS~~~~~Mtech~~~~~Helix ~~~~~Bimmian~~~~Vorsteiner~~~~~WeissLicht~~~~
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