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      04-17-2012, 04:12 AM   #1
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Installation of basic bluetooth kit for my 523i

Is it worse to install the basic bluetooth kit for my 523i which formally didn't included? I called BMW today and they only charge about $3000 for both parts and labour.
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bluetooth is one of the few features that i use every time i drive...

$3K for a factory system/installation/integration is a no brainer.
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I checked dealer HK website and there are a lot of retrofit stuffs available now. Wonder how much they cost?

My wish list is rear camera, performance steering wheel and performance pedals.
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I checked dealer HK website and there are a lot of retrofit stuffs available now. Wonder how much they cost?

My wish list is rear camera, performance steering wheel and performance pedals.
You should get the rear camera. A nice touch.

The bluetooth retrofit is cheap too at 3000.
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Will automatic tail gate be one of those? I really am regretting I didn't get that...with my kid's stroller, have to slam the trunk every single time.
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Will automatic tail gate be one of those? I really am regretting I didn't get that...with my kid's stroller, have to slam the trunk every single time.
Don't think it can be retrofitted. Is a completely different design just like the soft close door.
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I checked dealer HK website and there are a lot of retrofit stuffs available now. Wonder how much they cost?

My wish list is rear camera, performance steering wheel and performance pedals.
Where do they list the retrofit kits?!??!?!
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Will automatic tail gate be one of those? I really am regretting I didn't get that...with my kid's stroller, have to slam the trunk every single time.
Just talked to BMWHK. Can't retrofit the auto tailgate. I can't retrofit the rear cam either.

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Where do they list the retrofit kits?!??!?!
here you go:
http://www.bmwhk.com/com/en/owners/a...er/finder.html

They just told me the M performance may release next Q. They said they will keep me updated. Will let you guys know.
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You mean people can do it in Taiwan? Don't know anyone in HK yet. Even the rear camera, I mean the real interface integration not those add on ones.
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I found a guy can retrofit GPS, 10 inch monitor, Combox and othe iDrive stuff.

I saw the website from taiwan garage, this guy can retrofit tailgate....really crazy.
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Will automatic tail gate be one of those? I really am regretting I didn't get that...with my kid's stroller, have to slam the trunk every single time.
The tail gate is handy, love it! But it's not a must, unless you're having a F11 then you really need it.
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I found a guy can retrofit GPS, 10 inch monitor, Combox and othe iDrive stuff.

I saw the website from taiwan garage, this guy can retrofit tailgate....really crazy.
That will cost more than retrofit as an option. also BMW will vote the warranty.
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I found a guy can retrofit GPS, 10 inch monitor, Combox and othe iDrive stuff.

I saw the website from taiwan garage, this guy can retrofit tailgate....really crazy.
Bluetooth I understand. But I don't quite know why people would want to retrofit GPS in Hong Kong. GPS came with my 2011 E93 M3 and I tested it against my Android devices (Galaxy S2 ICS4.04, Galaxy Note 2.3.5, Galaxy Tab 8.9). I have Sygic on my S2, Wisepilot on Note, and Route 66 on Tab8.9. Here's what I find:

Initial lock after night.
Fastest->slowest: Note, S2, Tab, and iDrive. Sometimes, it took idrive a full 30 mins to lock while showing me at the peak. I would have been over the western tunnel by then.

Roads completeness: Sygic>Route 66> Wisepilot> iDrive. iDrive still shows me driving on water on route 8 even with the newest map updates. And a lot of the small roads do not appear!

Guidance usefulness: Pretty much even.

Additional features: everybody beats iDrive. I use mostly Sygic and it has speed limit information on roads, speedtrap warnings, and if you have friends using it, it will allow you to navigate to your friends. Route 66 interface has a follow me mode, where it shows you a virtual car in front of you and you follow. Very cool.

Costs? We all know who loses majorly here.......

So even I have GPS on M3, I still just rely on my S2 with Sygic most of the time.......

G Note is probably the best on GPS reception (because it can receive Russian/European sats, too). But finding a car mount for it that is not too obtrusive is not an easy taks.....
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Taiwanese can do anything, but I don't think it's BMW original. If it ain't then forget it. Not really a must have option and it's really easy to get broken by idiots who don't realize you have this option on your car, just like auto sliding door on MPVs.

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Just talked to BMWHK. Can't retrofit the auto tailgate. I can't retrofit the rear cam either.
Really? If you remember the time when BMWHK decided to put the rear cam as standard options on the 523i, they need to retrofit it because the orders from the factory came without the camera.

From my understanding, it's an easy retrofit because all cars are supposed to be prewired. You just need to replace the lighting part with one that have the camera, hook it up and update your CIP. If the website show it as an accessory it should be able to retrofit.

Sounds like they don't want your business. Which happens when they are very busy.

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Bluetooth I understand. But I don't quite know why people would want to retrofit GPS in Hong Kong. GPS came with my 2011 E93 M3 and I tested it against my Android devices (Galaxy S2 ICS4.04, Galaxy Note 2.3.5, Galaxy Tab 8.9). I have Sygic on my S2, Wisepilot on Note, and Route 66 on Tab8.9. Here's what I find:

Initial lock after night.
Fastest->slowest: Note, S2, Tab, and iDrive. Sometimes, it took idrive a full 30 mins to lock while showing me at the peak. I would have been over the western tunnel by then.

Roads completeness: Sygic>Route 66> Wisepilot> iDrive. iDrive still shows me driving on water on route 8 even with the newest map updates. And a lot of the small roads do not appear!

Guidance usefulness: Pretty much even.

Additional features: everybody beats iDrive. I use mostly Sygic and it has speed limit information on roads, speedtrap warnings, and if you have friends using it, it will allow you to navigate to your friends. Route 66 interface has a follow me mode, where it shows you a virtual car in front of you and you follow. Very cool.

Costs? We all know who loses majorly here.......

So even I have GPS on M3, I still just rely on my S2 with Sygic most of the time.......

G Note is probably the best on GPS reception (because it can receive Russian/European sats, too). But finding a car mount for it that is not too obtrusive is not an easy taks.....
I say again, you have to be an absolute idiot to get completely lost in HK with your car. The only use for a GPS is to remind you where the street is, like looking at the map.
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G Note is probably the best on GPS reception (because it can receive Russian/European sats, too). But finding a car mount for it that is not too obtrusive is not an easy taks.....
Lucky for you I have done a lot of research on this task that I don't want to go wasted.
This guy has the largest variety of stands, but don't know if it'll fit your device:

http://store.taobao.com/?user_number_id=353637512

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Really? If you remember the time when BMWHK decided to put the rear cam as standard options on the 523i, they need to retrofit it because the orders from the factory came without the camera.

From my understanding, it's an easy retrofit because all cars are supposed to be prewired. You just need to replace the lighting part with one that have the camera, hook it up and update your CIP. If the website show it as an accessory it should be able to retrofit.

Sounds like they don't want your business. Which happens when they are very busy.
I don't get it either. The guy told me my have has to have GPS if I want to retrofit the camera. I also told him that many F10 with no GPS has rear cam. He said it's some sort of software issue so can't be done at the moment. I asked when it can be done, he has no clue.

May be you are right. They don't want to do my business or this guy is not so competent.
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I don't get it either. The guy told me my have has to have GPS if I want to retrofit the camera. I also told him that many F10 with no GPS has rear cam. He said it's some sort of software issue so can't be done at the moment. I asked when it can be done, he has no clue.

May be you are right. They don't want to do my business or this guy is not so competent.
Which service center you ask?
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Not sure. I sent an email and a guy called me back. Number is 31936841
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Not sure. I sent an email and a guy called me back. Number is 31936841
I get it now, you've called customer service. Let me ask someone who actually works at the shop
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For iDrive GPS, my 2011 E92 comes with GPS which work pretty fast on HK island and also mongkok area.....

For tailgate, I visited their garage in Taiwan last month. They are very professional workshop for BMW since 1993. The owner has a F10 and he open up the truck and show me the genuine parts one by one.....The guy is crazy, he bought a brand new F10 and investigate all retrofit like CIC, tailgate and bluetooth. He new project is Head Up Display.....He bough all parts now and try to retrofit.
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