Cobb with BMS Meth

Turbo Frenetic · 07-12-2013, 03:47 AM

How to connect bms meth with Cobb? is it possible?

enrita · 07-12-2013, 04:08 AM

what do you mean connect??? as failsafe? you dont connect to cobb but to the dme itself.

_ink · 07-12-2013, 05:07 AM

You need an aquamist meth controller

Lunatic Fringe · 07-12-2013, 06:04 AM

What do you currently own?

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Originally Posted by enrita

what do you mean connect??? as failsafe? you dont connect to cobb but to the dme itself.

Lol. The OP is talking about using the BMS meth system with a Cobb AP

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Originally Posted by _ink

You need an aquamist meth controller

Not necessarily...only if he already has a Cobb and doesn't want to stack tunes.

enrita · 07-12-2013, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lunatic Fringe

What do you currently own?

Lol. The OP is talking about using the BMS meth system with a Cobb AP

lol thats what the op wrote. no need to repeat it. more info is needed...

RimasRS · 07-12-2013, 09:24 AM

Interesting subject what is the cheapest way for COBB tune to run METH?

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 07-12-2013, 09:33 AM

Cheapest way?

Get a basic devils own or cooling mist kit and have it spray at 8 PSI. (Spray and pray).

enrita · 07-12-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RimasRS

Interesting subject what is the cheapest way for COBB tune to run METH?

HFS4 aquamist. it integrates into the dme , if no flow it will throw a limp mode (low boost) .
Best kit out

Turbo Frenetic · 07-16-2013, 01:56 AM

I'm already has Cobb and BMS meth kit. I need to make it work! How? Please don't tell me that aquamist is better.

enrita · 07-16-2013, 02:40 AM

u can run any kit you want but only the hfs4 is integrated to create a failsafe with cobb. it also works using injector signal and boost. so run your bms kit but if your map is very aggressive and it fails to spray you can hurt stuff.

Lunatic Fringe · 07-16-2013, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Frenetic

I'm already has Cobb and BMS meth kit. I need to make it work! How? Please don't tell me that aquamist is better.

You need to buy a JB4 to control the BMS meth kit. You can either sell the Cobb or use it for BMS's backend flash. If you can still get around $600 for an AP in the used market, I would unload it and buy an OpenFlash tablet for $395 if you decide to do a backend flash later on.

Lunatic Fringe · 07-16-2013, 02:58 AM

The spray and pray approach is not advisable. Meth kits fail all the time. The last thing you want to do is blow a cylinder and destroy your engine running too much ignition advance under load

_ink · 07-16-2013, 05:14 AM

As I stated above, if you want to run a Cobb flash only - then you will need the aquamist.

Otherwise, get a JB4 with the FSB on top of the BMS flash.

You can't run a BMS flash on its own anyway.

ken1137 · 07-16-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Cheapest way?
(Spray and pray).

Jeef · 07-16-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ken1137

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Cheapest way?
(Spray and pray).

Beat me to it

marv85 · 07-16-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Frenetic

I'm already has Cobb and BMS meth kit. I need to make it work! How? Please don't tell me that aquamist is better.

the Aquamist is better honestly

now with that, the easiest way for you is to get a boost switch and set it to something like 7 or 8 psi. you won't even have to connect to the DME and you're all set.

of course you have no failsafe with that method.

jayzF30 · 07-17-2013, 09:33 PM

FSB is really limited in failsafe ability. Speaking to some locals running it they always have issues with the thing burning out and having to replace it. It also just guesses on actual flow unlike Aquamist that sees real liquid flow. Once the kit is spraying there is little difference but the advantages are everywhere else and they are critical to engine health and safety.

JAL0988 · 08-02-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Frenetic

I'm already has Cobb and BMS meth kit. I need to make it work! How? Please don't tell me that aquamist is better.

Call Pro Tuning Freaks and they'll customize a tune for your cobb incorporating the meth

Turbo Frenetic · 08-02-2013, 03:13 PM

Solved problem with buying jb4. Will install it together with Cobb!

Tony@vargasturbotech · 08-02-2013, 05:14 PM

I second the HFS-4 it's a great kit with a lot of features and honestly your only option if you want to run a meth kit with intregrated failsafe and flash only. Snow has something called safejection, but I have no experience with it.

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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Cheapest way? Get a basic devils own or cooling mist kit and have it spray at 8 PSI. (Spray and pray).
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Turbo Frenetic Private 0 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 335i, 2008 E92 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Moscow iTrader: (1)	I'm already has Cobb and BMS meth kit. I need to make it work! How? Please don't tell me that aquamist is better.
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	u can run any kit you want but only the hfs4 is integrated to create a failsafe with cobb. it also works using injector signal and boost. so run your bms kit but if your map is very aggressive and it fails to spray you can hurt stuff. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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Lunatic Fringe Private First Class 1 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sideways iTrader: (0)	The spray and pray approach is not advisable. Meth kits fail all the time. The last thing you want to do is blow a cylinder and destroy your engine running too much ignition advance under load
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_ink Jedi samurai ninja turtle 619 Rep 3,021 Posts Drives: X3 M40i 2018 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 X3 M40i [0.00]	As I stated above, if you want to run a Cobb flash only - then you will need the aquamist. Otherwise, get a JB4 with the FSB on top of the BMS flash. You can't run a BMS flash on its own anyway.
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jayzF30 Captain 34 Rep 783 Posts Drives: '07 335i, '09 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (0)	FSB is really limited in failsafe ability. Speaking to some locals running it they always have issues with the thing burning out and having to replace it. It also just guesses on actual flow unlike Aquamist that sees real liquid flow. Once the kit is spraying there is little difference but the advantages are everywhere else and they are critical to engine health and safety. __________________ '07 335i E90 - PTF ProTUNED by Dzenno - COBB FMIC - AFE DCI - AA DPs - HFS4 Meth '09 M3 - Stock
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Tony@vargasturbotech Banned 136 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: N54 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I second the HFS-4 it's a great kit with a lot of features and honestly your only option if you want to run a meth kit with intregrated failsafe and flash only. Snow has something called safejection, but I have no experience with it.
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