Limp mode...

vanondemand · 07-15-2013, 06:40 PM

My 07 335i constantly goes into limp mode in 3/4th gear around 3.5K RPM's when I aggressively push the car. What could possibly be the issue?
HPFP appears to be fine, I cannot get a code out of the car using a scanner. Problem goes away after you restart the car.

Car has 36K mileage, no tune on it. Has DCI, aftermarket exhaust thats about it. Oil levels is OK. Just recently replaced 3 coil packs that had gone bad.

akotten · 07-15-2013, 06:42 PM

Are you talking about a half engine light limp mode? Does the SES light come on? How does it react right before it happens?

vanondemand · 07-15-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by akotten

Are you talking about a half engine light limp mode? Does the SES light come on? How does it react right before it happens?

Yes half engine light, Car drives perfectly fine before that and when I punch the gas pedal hard or drive aggressively it will also go into limp.
This has happened at least 100 times now with NO SES.

rudebwoi · 07-15-2013, 07:00 PM

seems like its been happening much more often lately...

im going to check my vanos solenoids this week, i read that can cause it at times...

akotten · 07-15-2013, 07:05 PM

You're going to need to pull the code. You could probably guess all day without knowing that or having other symptoms. Best of luck!

Markyd83 · 07-15-2013, 07:05 PM

Same exact thing happened yesterday to me at the track. Every time full throttle about 4k in 3rd gear 1/2 engine light would kick in and service engine soon. I never got to 4th gear all day. Jb4 said all sorts of sensors went bad and vanos. From my research it shows vanos selenoid and I will be ordering that tonight. Will let you know outcome if you still have problems with it.

joec500 · 07-15-2013, 07:49 PM

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Same exact thing happened yesterday to me at the track. Every time full throttle about 4k in 3rd gear 1/2 engine light would kick in and service engine soon. I never got to 4th gear all day. Jb4 said all sorts of sensors went bad and vanos. From my research it shows vanos selenoid and I will be ordering that tonight. Will let you know outcome if you still have problems with it.

Yup, I had the EXACT same symptoms and it was my VANOS that died.

Markyd83 · 07-15-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Markyd83

Same exact thing happened yesterday to me at the track. Every time full throttle about 4k in 3rd gear 1/2 engine light would kick in and service engine soon. I never got to 4th gear all day. Jb4 said all sorts of sensors went bad and vanos. From my research it shows vanos selenoid and I will be ordering that tonight. Will let you know outcome if you still have problems with it.

Yup, I had the EXACT same symptoms and it was my VANOS that died.

Intake or exhaust one?

akotten · 07-15-2013, 08:14 PM

I did have a VANOS solenoid cause a similar problem, but I was able to confirm it with a code before buying a replacement.

Brett335i · 07-15-2013, 08:18 PM

Here you go good sir. I went into limp mode right around 50k miles for the first time. About 20k miles before that was when the wastegate rattle started. If you still have wastegate rattle, that is exactly what it is. You are losing boost and your car is smart enough to switch to use only the better of the 2 turbos. I took my car to the dealership and they confirmed this, replaced my turbos under the extended turbo warranty, and put me in a loner for a week. Now my car runs like new, if not better. Good Luck!

kiteboy · 07-16-2013, 11:21 AM

Limp mode was due before mee to wastegate rattle DTC 3100
Bmw has replaced both turbo now no pb!

vanondemand · 07-16-2013, 04:49 PM

Today I wasn't even pushing the car and the engine went into limp mode, I listened and I could hear the wastegate/something rattle when I was decelerating/not pushing on the gas peddle.

enrita · 07-16-2013, 05:18 PM

post the codes...

enrita · 07-16-2013, 05:19 PM

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Limp mode was due before mee to wastegate rattle DTC 3100
Bmw has replaced both turbo now no pb!

error 3100 is the general limp mode (turbos are switched off) this is normally caused by another issue with code.

kiteboy · 07-16-2013, 05:30 PM

Yes but if wastegate is too defective it can be product this code...

treeplane01 · 07-19-2013, 05:13 AM

I have the same issues with my 08 e93. 49K miles. First showed up in 2010. with only 14k on it. I suspect the turbos is not as strong as it should be. my 08 535i runs stronger w/ no limp mode issues.
The codes my indy shop recently pulled from historical database OX2DED (11757) Power management idle current mode invalid signal and OX3OFF(12543) Exhaust turbo low pressure side invalid signal. I had them pull and clean VANOS Solenoids (since there were no indications the solenoids were defective, I had them reinstalled)
The Vanos Solenoid cleaning had no effect. Going to BMW dealer ship Tuesday. The last time it was there (still under warranty) They could not find a code or any issues....have a nice day. Now that the car's warranty has expired, I think they might be able to find out whats wrong.

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vanondemand Banned 46 Rep 659 Posts Drives: E92 335i M/T Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Limp mode... My 07 335i constantly goes into limp mode in 3/4th gear around 3.5K RPM's when I aggressively push the car. What could possibly be the issue? HPFP appears to be fine, I cannot get a code out of the car using a scanner. Problem goes away after you restart the car. Car has 36K mileage, no tune on it. Has DCI, aftermarket exhaust thats about it. Oil levels is OK. Just recently replaced 3 coil packs that had gone bad.
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akotten Major 38 Rep 1,079 Posts Drives: 2004 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Wichita, KS iTrader: (2)	Are you talking about a half engine light limp mode? Does the SES light come on? How does it react right before it happens? __________________ 2004 E46 M3 \| Imola Red on Cinnamon \| Slicktop \| Manual Seats \| 6spd MT \|
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rudebwoi Second Lieutenant 48 Rep 216 Posts Drives: 17 F82 6MT ZCP Mineral White Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoFlo iTrader: (2)	seems like its been happening much more often lately... im going to check my vanos solenoids this week, i read that can cause it at times... __________________ 2017 F82 ZCP 6M
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akotten Major 38 Rep 1,079 Posts Drives: 2004 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Wichita, KS iTrader: (2)	You're going to need to pull the code. You could probably guess all day without knowing that or having other symptoms. Best of luck! __________________ 2004 E46 M3 \| Imola Red on Cinnamon \| Slicktop \| Manual Seats \| 6spd MT \|
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Markyd83 Captain 28 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	Same exact thing happened yesterday to me at the track. Every time full throttle about 4k in 3rd gear 1/2 engine light would kick in and service engine soon. I never got to 4th gear all day. Jb4 said all sorts of sensors went bad and vanos. From my research it shows vanos selenoid and I will be ordering that tonight. Will let you know outcome if you still have problems with it.
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akotten Major 38 Rep 1,079 Posts Drives: 2004 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Wichita, KS iTrader: (2)	I did have a VANOS solenoid cause a similar problem, but I was able to confirm it with a code before buying a replacement. __________________ 2004 E46 M3 \| Imola Red on Cinnamon \| Slicktop \| Manual Seats \| 6spd MT \|
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Brett335i First Lieutenant 10 Rep 382 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Coupe (Silver) Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Orlando, FLA iTrader: (0)	Here you go good sir. I went into limp mode right around 50k miles for the first time. About 20k miles before that was when the wastegate rattle started. If you still have wastegate rattle, that is exactly what it is. You are losing boost and your car is smart enough to switch to use only the better of the 2 turbos. I took my car to the dealership and they confirmed this, replaced my turbos under the extended turbo warranty, and put me in a loner for a week. Now my car runs like new, if not better. Good Luck! __________________ *07' 335i E92- SOLD*
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07-16-2013, 11:21 AM	#11
kiteboy Lieutenant 12 Rep 420 Posts Drives: E92 Stage 2 BR Performance Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: France iTrader: (0)	Limp mode was due before mee to wastegate rattle DTC 3100 Bmw has replaced both turbo now no pb!
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vanondemand Banned 46 Rep 659 Posts Drives: E92 335i M/T Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Today I wasn't even pushing the car and the engine went into limp mode, I listened and I could hear the wastegate/something rattle when I was decelerating/not pushing on the gas peddle.
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kiteboy Lieutenant 12 Rep 420 Posts Drives: E92 Stage 2 BR Performance Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: France iTrader: (0)	Yes but if wastegate is too defective it can be product this code...
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07-19-2013, 05:13 AM	#16
treeplane01 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 2008 335i cabrio Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Fonda, NY iTrader: (0)	Limp Mode codes I have the same issues with my 08 e93. 49K miles. First showed up in 2010. with only 14k on it. I suspect the turbos is not as strong as it should be. my 08 535i runs stronger w/ no limp mode issues. The codes my indy shop recently pulled from historical database OX2DED (11757) Power management idle current mode invalid signal and OX3OFF(12543) Exhaust turbo low pressure side invalid signal. I had them pull and clean VANOS Solenoids (since there were no indications the solenoids were defective, I had them reinstalled) The Vanos Solenoid cleaning had no effect. Going to BMW dealer ship Tuesday. The last time it was there (still under warranty) They could not find a code or any issues....have a nice day. Now that the car's warranty has expired, I think they might be able to find out whats wrong.
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