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      01-09-2014, 05:23 AM   #1
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Useless Rear Window

Hi,

Is anyone having problems with no wipers on the rear window? I realize I knew this before I bought the car, but I thought BMW would have some way of mitigating that to ensure you can see through your rear window.

This image is after leaving the heating function on for 10 minutes in relatively misty conditions.. I can't wait to see what snow and ice will do to it..

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      01-09-2014, 06:41 AM   #2
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Honestly, I haven't had too much issues with it. But I do agree with you that it's not optimum.
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      01-09-2014, 08:00 AM   #3
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In the damp, misty conditions we've been having up here recently, mine clears perfectly well. It doesn't seem to take any longer than any of my previous BMWs.
Have you thought about taking it back to the dealership and asking them to check the circuit ?
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Honestly, I haven't had too much issues with it. But I do agree with you that it's not optimum.
I will be a bit off topic on my own thread. I see you are form PA and I guess the weather has been freezing. I am really curious on how the frameless windows will cope with the frozen climate.

Of course, now when you shut the car, the windows rolls up about an inch to seal the door, but when it's filled with ice and snow does it still work?

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I will be a bit off topic on my own thread. I see you are form PA and I guess the weather has been freezing. I am really curious on how the frameless windows will cope with the frozen climate.

Of course, now when you shut the car, the windows rolls up about an inch to seal the door, but when it's filled with ice and snow does it still work?

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I had the previous E92 and it also had frameless doors. I had an issue once or twice. The window came down slower than usual and up slower. Otherwise it was no other issues. And I think it may be the same with this car as well.
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Drive faster and the wind takes care of it. I have never had a car that could clear its window of heavy dew or mist with defroster alone. It takes a lot of energy to evaporate liquid water

A rear wiper is always nice but I say good riddance to the extra weight complexity wind noise and ugliness
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Hey benready,
The windows actually worked just fine. it seems when it's not fighting against the ice, but only sliding underneath it, it's a-ok.

What cycler might have experienced with the slower up/down may just have been from a weaker battery (affected by the cold - batteries hate the cold)
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Im from sweden and at the moment we have -14 degrees celcius and snow, and its impossible to see out of the rear window no matter how long you leave the heater on. I guess our temperatures is a bit extreme but it would have been nice to have a rear wiper for sure!

I should add that my A5 Sportback I had before the F34 had the same issue but it seemed to be a bit faster at heating up the windows. The good thing with the F34 is that the frameless windows does go down even at these temperatures, wich was not the case with the A5.
I recommend getting a heated garage for that car
You don't scrape ice from the rear window with your wipers do you?
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      01-14-2014, 03:08 AM   #9
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I had my first few days of cold weather - the windows held up nice. Both the rear and the side.

Thanks for your comments in this post as well.
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Well, thats partially true. But I think a wiper would have helped a bit
I was gonna say... With ice and snow, you really should be scraping/brushing instead of relying on the heating elements to melt the ice and snow completely.

However, I can understand if it's misty and water isn't clearing the windshield at lower speeds, causing something similar to what's pictures in the first/original post.
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As long as you move faster than the surrounding traffic you don't need to look back.
Could you code the wing to scrape the window too?
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As long as you move faster than the surrounding traffic you don't need to look back.
Could you code the wing to scrape the window too?
Great idea! Someone attach a squeegee to the spoiler and then drive between 40 and 60 mph whenever its wet out.
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