ynguldyn wrote

Enjoy.

genericgio wrote

Really really awesome. Best post evah!

If you happen to come across this doc please do post.

Product information N63TU3 Engine

Thanks!

ynguldyn wrote

Enjoy.

2019x5User wrote

Why I cannot see the doc?

BMW168 wrote

Wow, this would be so helpful in picking options !

thank you very much for posting !!

lumpydog wrote

BMW168 wrote

Wow, this would be so helpful in picking options !

thank you very much for posting !!

Agreed - I'm reading some of the details on the various suspensions and brakes and may have rethought a few things... Not sure I'd change my order, but I might have thought harder about some other options.

In the powertrain and chassis document, the section on brakes makes me wonder what the real difference is between some of the brake configurations... Some brake calipers look like the only difference is blue paint?

In that same document, the sections on the off-road and air suspension functions are very detailed and provide a lot of information about the various suspension setups that would have been helpful to know prior to purchasing.

BMW's challenge is in communicating the massive amount of technology and capability they pack into these cars. The CA's ability to understand, recall and correctly communicate it... too much gets lost.

I'm not knocking the CAs. Take the X5 and then add the entire lineup of BMW's products and the constantly changing nomenclature that refers to the same capability... and then the new technologies... it's just not realistic.

AndroidRobot wrote

The brake differences are bigger rotors and larger calipers which can be seen in the little notes

lumpydog wrote

I though so too - but then this breakdown (link below) makes it look like the M-Sport calipers are not so different from the 18 inch disc calipers.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jLRFvY4epfXax7Uv9

kschac wrote

This suggests there are three different brakes, with 17", 18" and 19" discs. The 19" disc brakes are the blue painted M Sport brakes but I have never seen any option to specify 18" disc brakes from Brembo vs. 17" disc brakes from Continental. Does it have anything to do with wheel size? I have a 40i with M Sport package with 20" wheels, but did not order M Sport brakes. Do I get 17" or 18" discs on my brakes?? Or maybe the 50i gets the intermediate brakes?

lumpydog wrote

Kinda what I was wondering...

Looks like, if you order a setup that comes with the 18" disc brakes - you get the M-Sport calipers... just not painted blue. Not sure that's accurate - but kinda looks that way... no?

BobsM3Coupe wrote

Excellent info. Any chance someone have the link to the G01 technical training documents?

lumpydog wrote

AndroidRobot wrote

The brake differences are bigger rotors and larger calipers which can be seen in the little notes

I though so too - but then this breakdown (link below) makes it look like the M-Sport calipers are not so different from the 18 inch disc calipers.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jLRFvY4epfXax7Uv9

lumpydog wrote

Fantastic! Thank you.

[Edit] - Reading through these, some good gold nuggets. Shows CD player for glovebox. Confirms 464 watts used for Harman Kardon sound system.

5AR ("Extended Traffic Jam Assistant" the added capability in the Driving Assistance Professional Package) is not listed as hardware... in other words, ZDB and ZDY appear to use the same hardware...

ynguldyn wrote

Brakes:

40i base: floating 348x30 + 345x24
40i w/ 3rd row: fixed 4 piston 348x36 + 345x24
50i base: fixed 4 piston 374x36 + 345x24
any engine + 2NH: fixed 4 piston 395x36 + 370x24