TurtleBoy wrote

As has been said, 10%+ off should be fairly doable. Shop your build around to some dealers and see what they are doing. If you want to bypass that work, contact one of our resident brokers and they will be able to do it for you. Try Scott with Insight smithf80 (scott@insightautoconsulting.com), Dan with Next Level Auto Brokers (dan@nextlevelautobrokers.com) or Ashleigh with Bimmer Car Deals (ashleigh@bimmercardeals.com).

2025G0540i wrote

10% off is not exaggerated. If your local dealers won't compete use a broker on here. They'll chime in soon. You might even be able to do better than 10%. I think special orders might be getting close to being cut off soon on the G05 and that will be it as the new redesign is coming.

JDHawk70 wrote

You absolutely need to get 10% plus the loyalty credit. Don't be afraid to go out of state. Even with a broker but do the math. They charge a fee, the dealer docs fees might be higher where you go and then there is shipping. You might get 13% off or more but all the extra stuff is almost a percent off. Still, you should net 10% even with a broker. You'll find a dealer somewhere doing it though.
I saw where you said you keep your vehicles 8-10 yrs. I custom ordered my X5 around 90k from Bill Jacobs in Chicago. This is a big reason I chose them as I had multiple dealers I was at 10% plus with. I know the brokers can get deals done in Chicago for you but not sure it is this dealer. If not call Maggie B and Gigi there and work out a deal and have them ship it to you. It shouldn't cost more than $800 (see there's about 1% eating the cost) Dealer Doc fee there is also only $399.

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CiprianS wrote

seezur another friendly advice. Don't bring the trade into discussions when you are trying to get pricing for the X5.

First, you get the % off the MSRP, APR, and fees, and then, if you think it is worth it, you bring the trade-in into the discussion.

P.S. The stealership I used to get my two cars from was giving me some joke offers on my car. Although I went with a $59k offer from Carmax, they were giving me $53k. And that $53k was $51k before I continued to push for more and went with the offer from Carmax. Their suggestion was to sell it to Carmax and then get back to them to order a new one. Hell no, you try to rip me off like that, no more business from me... so get lost with it, and I just went with a broker and bye-bye.

seezur wrote

Hey thanks for the detailed write up, very much appreciated. I just left the dealership local to me and got a quote from one near me. I’ve driven a X5 before but wow, today convinced me.

Both quotes I got locally are not ideal. The closer dealer when all is said and done gave me $1350/mo with $2k rebate, trade and $1k down for 60mo at 1.99%. It basically comes out to them giving me $3-5k less for my trade, and rolling that into % off MSRP, but still nowhere close to 10%. They have 5 or so allocations.

The place further from me gave me the same offer or alternatively 2.99% for 72mo that comes out to $1176/mo which is what I’m aiming for. Still only comes out to $1k off MSRP or close to 1% off. They’re putting more on the trade but in the end it works out to $1350/mo or so from both dealers at 1.99% for 60. They have two allocations.

I did reach out to all 3 broker emails provided above and have heard back from Ashleigh so far. Hoping to move this week because I know timing is tight and I’m somewhat worried I’ll miss my shot as I haven’t been able to get a clear timeframe on when they’ll stop taking orders. I’ll call your other recommendations on Monday.

CiprianS wrote

seezur another friendly advice. Don't bring the trade into discussions when you are trying to get pricing for the X5.

First, you get the % off the MSRP, APR, and fees, and then, if you think it is worth it, you bring the trade-in into the discussion.

smithf80 wrote

This is bad advice

CiprianS wrote

Any reason for saying this? If so, you can mention them so that we learn from you.

smithf80 wrote

In most cases it's not even the same manager who gives the new car deal that is appraising your trade.

CiprianS wrote

In my case, when I went with the trade-in altogether first, the same sales guy came with both the new car pricing and the trade-in pricing. So, what they were giving me with one hand, was taken back with the other one.

That he got the pricing from an acquisition person, a used sales car person, etc. that is a different story. But I did not deal with two different persons at the same time.

So, permit me to disagree with your opinion.

CiprianS wrote

Our opinions are quite different on this one, but your opinion makes sense, too.

JDHawk70 wrote

I've always tried to do it your way but honestly, probably doesnt matter. Know what you want and want to give for each and stick to it. Just gotta watch for the fancy math and see through it.

smithf80 wrote

It's just a waste of time, your time, their time, everyones time.

In most cases it's not even the same manager who gives the new car deal that is appraising your trade.