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06-02-2025
Mammoth Lakes, CA over Memorial Day weekend. Camping and skiing. Life is good.
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06-04-2025
I've towed my Miata race car to and from the nearby track several times. Overall, it’s an easy job for the xDrive40i. My X5 doesn’t have air suspension, so the rear end did squat a bit. I noticed some understeering while cornering on the highway, but aside from that, it drives normally. I have the stealth hitch installed, and it works perfectly.
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06-05-2025
Why wouldn't you move the car a bit to the back of the trailer?
06-05-2025
Something like this would give you instant feedback as to what your actual hitch weight is. https://www.amazon.com/Weigh-Safe-WS8-2-BA-Receiver-Built/dp/B07PFT52KH/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3UFZ3EN7V5XOM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.YrZ8p2eC7Nsfnyo6ymuNd6YF8Wtl1Zo0KWKtnaR5SOQ7VZDRguUeOCKC6pb7W-zHUVJCaMK-N3vpjt1yIrFW4tL9_zvunJBgYlCeL63czLiIzTmHudosB63YAdAvpKvq7p3u3-SH5yHjgcrOyYN_dwhyIAFGLi8ID84AfdtWIv7Pn00V73fFKVW5lMFWsQE7jrwI4OOI_s6JhQHlbC6URah0wcj05vQKjVnRgFBPyVmdRgji8h3n6kW5141MY1AYxkva-CSFcPBAqGOSlCGWG08bBiFU4zfkEZBQzWV-_04.IKWh2kP6BSTzIC9bUV9y_eP5SlaTb229Z7CTTGOfPG8&dib_tag=se&keywords=weigh%2Bhitch&qid=1749147564&sprefix=weigh%2Bhitch%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-9&th=1
06-05-2025
I appreciate all the comments here. I think i will stick with using the WDH for the first few trips and see how it feels. I did finally get the Techonsha RF to sync. Oddly, I had a blown fuse in the X5 going to the 12+v pin in the 7pin plug. Now that it is all functioning, I am wondering about the 'self' leveling part of the tow setup. My old TV (cayenne) was on springs so no height adjustment to deal with. I can't figure out if height level is fixed while in trailer mode in the X5, or can it still go up and down based on the driing mode? Ideally, once I set the ball height (19" per the Airstream manual), I don't want the vehicle height to vary much.
06-06-2025
So coming back from my excursion to The Coast I had the unfortunate situation of falling asleep at the wheel... Never happened to me before; scary sh*t.

Woke up to see us heading at an awkward angle down a long slope into the ditch in the median of a 4-lane hwy (cruise control on @ 64).

I could feel the momentum trying to tip over - gave it some gas to straighten out, and eventually got the rig back onto the highway where I heard a disconcerting grinding noise.

Got it over to the shoulder without hitting anybody (whew!) and stopped to find I had blown the right side tire on the trailer.

There is NO WAY I wouldn't have rolled over without the WDH. For that matter, I'm not sure my JGC would have made the save... Kudos to the X5!

As for all that extra stress on the chassis of the X5, so far I haven't noticed anything abnormal - drives true, no weird squeaks, moans or rattles...

Embarassing, but I'm really happy to be able to tell the tale!
06-07-2025
Off to the races.
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06-08-2025
Great pics in the posts

Cars without a full size spare are not suitable to tow as is IMHO. try towing with a “flat” runflat or a donut tire….

Crazy. why put a factory tow hitch on an X5 but don’t offer a full size spare.

Towed a trailer for many miles and many years with a GMC Yukon. when you have a flat you find out fast how valuable that is.
06-08-2025
Given how rare people get flat tire, full size spare tire is totally irrelevant. More important is that BMW is a great tow vehicle which you would enjoy every second while towing instead of towing with 100 years old design vehicles which handle poorly, but have full size spare.
X5_Oxfordii wrote
Great pics in the posts

Cars without a full size spare are not suitable to tow as is IMHO. try towing with a “flat” runflat or a donut tire….

Crazy. why put a factory tow hitch on an X5 but don’t offer a full size spare.

Towed a trailer for many miles and many years with a GMC Yukon. when you have a flat you find out fast how valuable that is.
06-10-2025
X5_Oxfordii wrote
Great pics in the posts

Cars without a full size spare are not suitable to tow as is IMHO. try towing with a “flat” runflat or a donut tire….

Crazy. why put a factory tow hitch on an X5 but don’t offer a full size spare.

Towed a trailer for many miles and many years with a GMC Yukon. when you have a flat you find out fast how valuable that is.
Had a friend who towed his track car with an X5 and had a tire failure on his way back home. It extended his stay by 2 days because there were no tire shops that had a replacement tire in the size that was needed for the X5.

Wouldn’t have been a problem in a vehicle that has a full size spare tire.

This is probably why most vehicles designed to tow more than an X5/X7 typically have a full size spare tire such as your light duty and heavy duty pickups as well as domestic 1/2 ton based SUVs.
06-10-2025
bono wrote
Given how rare people get flat tire, full size spare tire is totally irrelevant. More important is that BMW is a great tow vehicle which you would enjoy every second while towing instead of towing with 100 years old design vehicles which handle poorly, but have full size spare.
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

There’s a reason why body on frame vehicles such as pickups and 1/2 ton based SUVs have been around for a while.

I simply haven’t seen a unibody SUV that can tow as much as an HD pickup. I’m not saying it can’t be done - it can. But the demand would be so low due to the cost of implementing that.

Fortunately, I’ll be able to do this comparison for you and settle this debate once and for all.

We’re picking up a 2025 F150 Lariat SuperCrew with the 5.0, 6.5 foot bed, and Max Tow package from Granger Ford in early July.

I also placed an order for a 2026 X5 xDrive40i MSport this past Friday.
06-10-2025
Absolutely, there is a reason. The reason is that the manufacturing and maintenance of body on frame vehicles is much simpler and much cheaper. Manufacturers realize a massive profit margin on pickup trucks.

If I towed 20,000 lbs, I would not have a choice and would need to accept using pickup truck with its all flaws (poor handling and braking, etc.). Fortunately, my trailer is within towing capacity of BMW and I don't have to use obsolete design vehicle.
Polo08816 wrote
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

There’s a reason why body on frame vehicles such as pickups and 1/2 ton based SUVs have been around for a while.

I simply haven’t seen a unibody SUV that can tow as much as an HD pickup. I’m not saying it can’t be done - it can. But the demand would be so low due to the cost of implementing that.

Fortunately, I’ll be able to do this comparison for you and settle this debate once and for all.

We’re picking up a 2025 F150 Lariat SuperCrew with the 5.0, 6.5 foot bed, and Max Tow package from Granger Ford in early July.

I also placed an order for a 2026 X5 xDrive40i MSport this past Friday.
06-10-2025
bono wrote
Absolutely, there is a reason. The reason is that the manufacturing and maintenance of body on frame vehicles is much simpler and much cheaper. Manufacturers realize a massive profit margin on pickup trucks.

If I towed 20,000 lbs, I would not have a choice and would need to accept using pickup truck with its all flaws (poor handling and braking, etc.). Fortunately, my trailer is within towing capacity of BMW and I don't have to use obsolete design vehicle.
So that’s the comparison that I’ll be able to do soon.

I’ll tow something within the capacity of the 2026 BMW X5 xDrive40i and then I can tow the same trailer with the 2025 F150 Lariat with the 5.0, SuperCrew Cab, 6.5 foot bed, Max Tow package, and 3.73 gears.

That way I’ll be able to share my experience of the X5 towing at its advertised limits which is well within the limits of the F150.
06-10-2025
There are people who already did such comparison. You won't be the first one.
06-10-2025
I have no doubt a huge pickup will tow better. However I don't want to drive a pickup day to day and I don't want to have to buy and store an extra vehicle. The x5 does fine for the loads and frequency I expect.
06-10-2025
One thing to consider if you elect to try to apply what is viable in other countries is that while it is recommended not to use high speeds when towing a trailer in the US, it is illegal to do them in places like Europe. Since the forces on the vehicle are a factor of speed (velocity), and it's squared, a slight increase can put a huge increase in the stress to the vehicle. Say you're going 50mph, squared - 2500. Now you're doing 75 - squared 5625, or 2.25x more stress on things like the brakes, suspension, attachment points, and if you're using a WDH, the twist applied to the unibody as things bounce along over bumps, or you stop.
06-11-2025
50e never felt underpowered on steep grades or highway speeds. I use a Weighsafe hitch to safely manage my tongue weight. Also helps to have surge brakes on both axles of the trailer for added stopping power. I’ve pulled on full electric mode as well for a solid half hr with no issues.


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06-11-2025
I’ve towed my 5000-pound combined U-Haul trailer and car with my F150 XLT 3.5T many times before. Now, I’m towing with my X5 xDrive40i. In my personal opinion, within the towing capacity, the X5 provides more torque to pull. Other than that, I didn’t notice any issues with the X5. The only downside might be that I miss the rear bed on the truck, which can carry more tools and a set of spare wheels and tires.
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06-13-2025
I am not sure why you would want to tow with a F-150 yea sure it has a 14k tow limit but at that point 99% of people would a use a F-250+, just a miserable experience getting 7mpg and winding out the motor (speaking from experience with a 5.0).

If you are towing the same trailer setup with a x5 and f150 I would 100% choose the x5 (assuming you are within the limits of the x5).

As for tires on the x5 if you have the 20inch option a lot better chance of finding replacements, worse case just buy an additional full size spare and throw it in the trailer for peace of mind.
06-13-2025
Thanks for sharing firsthand experience instead of just praising trucks as ultimate towing machines.
beattiecj wrote
I am not sure why you would want to tow with a F-150 yea sure it has a 14k tow limit but at that point 99% of people would a use a F-250+, just a miserable experience getting 7mpg and winding out the motor (speaking from experience with a 5.0).

If you are towing the same trailer setup with a x5 and f150 I would 100% choose the x5 (assuming you are within the limits of the x5).

As for tires on the x5 if you have the 20inch option a lot better chance of finding replacements, worse case just buy an additional full size spare and throw it in the trailer for peace of mind.
06-14-2025
schaNYC wrote
50e never felt underpowered on steep grades or highway speeds. I use a Weighsafe hitch to safely manage my tongue weight. Also helps to have surge brakes on both axles of the trailer for added stopping power. I’ve pulled on full electric mode as well for a solid half hr with no issues.
Acceleration usually isn't the problem with most higher option powertrains in modern vehicles for towing.

Towing capacities reflected in GCWRs have increased because GVWRs have increased.
06-14-2025
zjiyuan89 wrote
I’ve towed my 5000-pound combined U-Haul trailer and car with my F150 XLT 3.5T many times before. Now, I’m towing with my X5 xDrive40i. In my personal opinion, within the towing capacity, the X5 provides more torque to pull. Other than that, I didn’t notice any issues with the X5. The only downside might be that I miss the rear bed on the truck, which can carry more tools and a set of spare wheels and tires.
Towing a 5,000lbs flat bed car trailer with minimal cross section is different than towing a 7,000-8,000lbs enclosed trailer.

Have you weighed your empty X5, F150, and your tow rig to see what your steer, drive, and trailer axles weigh?

Usually the U-Haul trailers are designed to place a greater % of the trailer weight on the tongue. If your combined U-Haul trailer weight was 5,000lbs, your tongue weight is going to be anywhere from 500-1,000lbs.

What's the payload capacity for an X5? https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1578877

Seems like it would be in the neighborhood of 750-1000lbs. If you had to add the weight of a set of tire/wheels, tools, yourself, maybe a passenger, and the tongue weight of that trailer, you could very easily exceed 750-1000lbs.

It would be less of a problem on a 1/2 ton pickup because most of those payloads are between 1000-2000lbs.